: Legal query on Aftermarket Pedal Kits


Carpium
29-07-2003, 08:50
Been looking at these 'sports' pedals that go over the standard ones and in most of the catalogues I've looked in they state "for off road and show use only"...

Does this mean they are illegal and you'll get done for them if pulled (if they ever bothered looking) or is it a crock of crud?

wiledw
29-07-2003, 09:00
Is a legal disclaimer basically so that if for example either of the following happen the manufacturer can claim no responcibility.

1. In the event of your foot slipping off the brake and someone getting hurt

2. in a crash the pedals **** your feet up.

AndyC
29-07-2003, 09:08
As long as they aren't the horrible "clamp-on" ones they are legal for road use and MOT failure isn't an issue. In fact Vauxhall offer it as a dealer upgrade (for around £80 fitted!!!! :yikes: )

Steve B
29-07-2003, 09:28
Any aftermarket pedals that have rubber inserts are fully road legal, as long as they are fitted correctly, and have a minimum distance between pedals (though I can't remember what this is). They put the disclaimer up as they will sell pedals without the rubber inserts as well.

Steve

AndyC
29-07-2003, 09:30
minimum distance is 50mm between the pedals, so that:

a) you dont hit the accelerator instead of the brake and vice versa
and
b) so that its more difficult to get your foot trapped between the pedals

Steve B
29-07-2003, 09:35
Cheers Andy, knew it was something like that, but did not want to spout crap if I was wrong. LOL

Steve

AndyC
29-07-2003, 09:37
Its alright mate, I work for Ripspeed remember, all I do at work is answer that question to people who have Fiestas and tell 17yos with 1 litre Novas you can't fit a DV to a NASP car... :p

Nathan
29-07-2003, 09:44
Originally posted by AndyC
you can't fit a DV to a NASP car... :p

You can't, damm that was going to be my next mod ;).

AndyC
29-07-2003, 09:47
Scarily I had a main dealer mechanic come in to buy a DV for his 216 coupe cos his colleagues had told him how it'd increase his power 10 fold.

wiledw
29-07-2003, 09:47
Originally posted by Nathan
You can't, damm that was going to be my next mod ;).

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Carpium
29-07-2003, 10:03
Thanks guys!

Just one last quicky... "rubber inserts" does this mean if its as straight metal cover (like the sparco ones) as opposed to the ones with rubber on (momo) that they are dodgy ?

AndyC
29-07-2003, 10:06
Rubber inserts will either be an integral part of the pedal design (Momo Grand Prix pedals are a good example) or a sheet of rubber 'knobbles' that you push through the holes in the pedal (like the Ripspeed/Sparco pedal sets)

If the pedals dont have rubber inserts make sure they have a corrugated design, so that your sole has somethign to grip on on the pedals. Having used smooth carbon fibre pedals in the Almera I can tell you how much of a pain in the :***: it is when your foot slips off!

Carpium
29-07-2003, 11:11
I like to look of the Momo ones myself.. anyone know of any similar ones? And the cheapest place to find the Momo's ?

AndyC
29-07-2003, 11:23
Try Steve B, I think Banshee do Momo...

Mike12345
29-07-2003, 22:53
2 questions...

what is a DV kit???
sorry!!??

next question...
Your talking about pedals, and feet slipping off them...
Well...when i drove my mothers metro..this used 2 happen...and now my rover 200mk3...same happends really...only when feet are wet though.
i find this a real pain, as it means tryin 2 dry them before you use the car....
i dont know if its the way i position my feet, or if the pedals are worn (M reg metro, N reg 200...bout 50k on each)
any help appreciated..

Dr Dave
30-07-2003, 06:32
DV means Dump Valve - a valve that releases boost pressure when the throttle is released :spanner:

AndyC
30-07-2003, 10:38
Originally posted by michaelperrin
2 questions...

what is a DV kit???
sorry!!??


DV=Dump Valve , a way of releasing prressure on turbo cars, no power gain (despite what Kev tells you about his Bailey on his RS Turbo :eyes: ) but rather a way of prolonging the turbos operational life by reducing the stresses exerted on it. Comes in two types, atmospheric, the ones that release the typical "pshhh" sound that you hear on gear change, and recirculating, where the pressure is dropped back into the intake system to try and retain some of the pressure in the system and combat inertial loss in the turbo.



next question...
Your talking about pedals, and feet slipping off them...
Well...when i drove my mothers metro..this used 2 happen...and now my rover 200mk3...same happends really...only when feet are wet though.
i find this a real pain, as it means tryin 2 dry them before you use the car....
i dont know if its the way i position my feet, or if the pedals are worn (M reg metro, N reg 200...bout 50k on each)
any help appreciated..

Probs just the rubbers are worn, get a new set from MG Rover and you'll be fine, just like it was when it was new really :p

cosb6
30-07-2003, 11:39
Originally posted by michaelperrin
i dont know if its the way i position my feet, or if the pedals are worn (M reg metro, N reg 200...bout 50k on each)
any help appreciated..

Low mileage cars often have more worn pedals.......

I drive high mileage, but hardly ever use the pedal. My 80 mile day involves less pedal pressing than the missus' 3 miles...

Mike12345
30-07-2003, 20:42
cheers guys..
the pschhh noise...hence the phrase...whistle and dump???

i know fkall bout turbos!!!