200 BHP Turbo kit for K series Motor!

[Mega]

Just read this on X-power site, seems that Mike S who runs a MG Bussness is or may soon offer a Turbo kit for ANY K series car!

He talks about this going up to 200 BHP!

I seem to remember Moto-build saying that they would be selling a kit soon as well.........i wonder if its a kit from MGR?

Either way GOOD NEWS!
Cheers
MIke

[Ultimate Racer]

:hyper:

YAY!!!

:bgrin:

My prayers have been answered!!

[ml.williams]

hum 1.4 turbo

so wot would it be

1.4 > 130bhp
1.6 > 160bhp
1.8 > 200bhp

was there any indication wot will happen with vvc engines as u say its for all K's

[Stu]

The 200 bhp one will probably be a VVC engine with the mechs ripped out and normal cams in. The VVC head has larger valves than the standard 1.8 and in the form is called the VHPD (Very high displacement head).

[WelshwarrioR25]

Its been done before by Mynheer

The engine likes the extra power but the gearbox cant cope with the suden power increase.

Therefore unless it is a low power turbo (wats the point!!) you have to change your gearbox every 5-10k miles!!

And that is why they did a supercharger for a while,
it will be good for a look though

[Stu]

The Pg1 gearbox on the 1.8's is the same one used on the 200/600/800 turbo's which all push 200bhp as standard.

Therefore the gearbox can handle it.

If Mynheer were silly enough to leave the R65 box on the supercharged 1.4, then it really shows how useless they are.

[Chris220SDi]

Originally posted by WelshwarrioR25
Its been done before by Mynheer

The engine likes the extra power but the gearbox cant cope with the suden power increase.

Therefore unless it is a low power turbo (wats the point!!) you have to change your gearbox every 5-10k miles!!

And that is why they did a supercharger for a while,
it will be good for a look though

As Stu said, the little R65 box cant cope with the power, but it was never intended to. The PG1 is fine with it, but you only get that with a 1.8.

My-arse-nher mgiht wanna faff with a 1.4, but its a blatent backwards step. It might be stronger than the 1.8, to slap a turbo on, but a little development and engine fettling skills would see a more relaiable and more powerful 1.8.

Besides IIRC mynheers was only 200 bhp becuase of a ***** load of NOS. I'm surry but I'm quite confident in sayign that slapping on a load of NOS is easy compared to tunign an engine properly.

:rolleyes:

[mErCuTi0]

BRING IT ON! :p

[Steve220]

'one-more-good-way-to-blow-a-headgasket' kit.

[Steve220]

There's no doubt its capable of more, its just a case of reliability. Is it going to make the engine last 5 years? or 5 minutes? 230bhp out of a K is impressive. Especially if its the 4 cylinder engines.
Steve

[JohnSwitzer]

You can actually buy a 220bhp+ K Series off the shelf... from the guys at Powertrain Projects.

http://www.powertrainprojects.co.uk/images/ptp220evoperformance.jpg

Related link: http://www.powertrainprojects.co.uk

John

[Kevin Davis]

Motobuild have put a T-seies turbo into an MG ZR, there is a big article about it in this months MG Enthusiast magazine. Costs about £3-4k for the conversion and Motobuild say they will 'source' a Turbo T-series for the conversion, which probably means it'll be from a 98000 mile 620ti that's been trashed!
Kev.

[ml.williams]

i think pepole really have a go at the K

there is plenty of everdence that a turbo K is coming in big power (waits for mega's chears) MGR had a big job geting the 160 down to that so it didnt steal 160V6 sales. just look at it exurst manerfold its a bit shocking.

the only reason its not here is coz it would show the V6 up a treat and that would be disaturus to there sales

[Ice D]

so the next thing for MGR to do is then would be to TWIN TURBO the Kv6 engine! can it be done???

[SteveChilds]

Originally posted by King Of Mods
so the next thing for MGR to do is then would be to TWIN TURBO the Kv6 engine! can it be done???

I don't doubt it can be done, but finding the space for it would be interesting.

[JohnSwitzer]

These Rover 75s driving around with the twin turbos.... who owns them?;)

As an aside, given that the KV6 can with mild tweaking produce 200bhp in a ZT context (just ask MGR senior management;), then surely in the power stakes a twin turbo unit would be up there at c.260bhp.... which intriguingly is the same power output as the Mustang engined 'entry level' V8 ZT was meant to be giving out........;)

John

[mErCuTi0]

300 and 4-wheel drive? hmm.. I wouldn't mind.. but in all honesty.. from what I hear, anyways.. wouldn't it be wiser to put a setup like that in a ZS chassis?

at 200km/h on a bumpy, but straight, road.. the ZR was all over the place. :err: 300bhp is just about double what the Zed 160 has.. I'd just get scared! :wtf:

[JohnSwitzer]

Oh yes.... and if MGR need a test mule for their 300bhp engine - I got a ZS outside they are more than welcome to use:D

John

[mErCuTi0]

My sisters boyf worked for Gwyndaf, heh... he's got a garage in Wales. :p

[X21PAD]

dose any one if there is a turbo kit to fit mg zs 2.5 v6

[Ann MG Writer]

K-ah BOOM!! :scary:

[Stiff]

Holy thread revival Batman! :bigeyes: 2003!?

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/batman-robin.jpg

[danemeuk]

Does any know what kind of stick the ford sourced gear box will take?

[boxwellm]

Hell, where did this thread appear from? Five years has to be a bit of a record, surely?

[Stiff]

Hell, where did this thread appear from? Five years has to be a bit of a record, surely?I think it might be! Shows someone was using the search function! :lol:

Does any know what kind of stick the ford sourced gear box will take?And that is an odd question for a Rover forum.
I own a Ford but I have no idea. Didn't the gearbox come with a stick? :dunno:

[jonesy118]

The VVC head has larger valves than the standard 1.8 and in the form is called the VHPD (Very high displacement head).

sorry to correct you Stu, but doesn't VHPD mean Very High Performance Derivative. as the displacement is still 1800cc

[Stu]

lol, correcting something from 5 years ago though. But yeah could do, can't remember off of the top of my head :lol:

As for a turbo for the KV6, then unfortunately no.

There is a supercharger option which has proven to be unreliable. And the only company to persist is even more unreliable.

[Ex Tester]

I think it might be! Shows someone was using the search function! :lol:
And that is an odd question for a Rover forum.


Its not an odd question, late 25s and 45s (1.4 and 1.6) were fitted with a Getrag Ford gearbox the same box fitted to Fiesta and Focus.

[AndyTucker]

The Ford iB5 box is not a strong unit, and probably no stronger than the R65. The stock Puma 1.7 had to be torque-limited in low gears to avoid killing the gearbox, and the Fiesta never used the 110PS variant of the 1.6 diesel as the iB5 couldn't handle the torque.

It's probably easiest to think of it in terms of the iB5 is Ford's equivalent to the R65 (for low-torque applications). For higher torque/power applications, Ford used the MTX75, which is their closest equivalent to the PG1 (but without the PG1's chocolate bearings!)

[Peterover]

a 1.4k Turbo would be a cool way to lower your VED burden esp on pre 2001 cars..

[SammyP]

a 1.4k Turbo would be a cool way to lower your VED burden esp on pre 2001 cars..

Screw that, 6.75l RR TT V8 FTW! Enough abbreviations there?

[ZRsteve]

The Ford iB5 box is not a strong unit, and probably no stronger than the R65. The stock Puma 1.7 had to be torque-limited in low gears to avoid killing the gearbox, and the Fiesta never used the 110PS variant of the 1.6 diesel as the iB5 couldn't handle the torque.

It's probably easiest to think of it in terms of the iB5 is Ford's equivalent to the R65 (for low-torque applications). For higher torque/power applications, Ford used the MTX75, which is their closest equivalent to the PG1 (but without the PG1's chocolate bearings!)

The iB5 did feel very nice in my last 1.4 ZR, and nearly as nice in my wife's 1.25 Fiesta. Very light and quick. Unlike the Getrag in my ZT, which is a bit 'chunky'.

[SteveChilds]

There is a supercharger option which has proven to be unreliable.Yup, which was a great shame, as a certain Mr Switzer will confirm, it transformed the ZS180 into one hell of a car.

[empsburna]

Yup, which was a great shame, as a certain Mr Switzer will confirm, it transformed the ZS180 into one hell of a car.
Did he get to have a go in one? Was it not held together with scotchlocks and a prayer? :err:

[SteveChilds]

Nope, he was a passenger in the one I had from PTP for a week. clicky (http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=118392)

[Andy25]

In my experience the IB5 is proving itself in our rally car and tbh the R65 struggles with a 1.4 and afaik the IB5 is an evolution of the RS turbo box and they seem to handle 200bhp all day long