: Project Blue update...


Naj
08-04-2005, 21:28
Got delivery of my bulbs today, bought only a few of www.ultraleds.com (http://www.ultraleds.com) to see which are best, here are the results so far...

excuse the photographs, taken with my moby


From this...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/Image36.jpg
To this....
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/Image24.jpg

Only problem is, the middle bulb (there are 3) aint been working since i fixed the instrument panel in. Not bothered, as i ordered some other bulbs to try so will need to open up the instrument panel up again (yipee)

Also fit a blue 4 led festoon bulb for the courtesy lamp. Its a nice blue as you can see, but is not powerfull enough and is far too small, it does not flood the interior as i would like it to. So i have sent it back and exchanged it for a longer festoon bulb that has 9 leds!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/Image38.jpg


Also with my next delivery are some high powered 501 bulbs that have a blue tint for the front side lamps. Also some more blue 501's so i can light up the the footwells of the driver and front passenger.

Question... anybody know how i can somehow get another festoon bulb on the roof, i wanna position one closer to the front (like reading lights), Is there a device, sorta like the current courtesy lamp unit that is encased in fglass/plastic that i can simply attach to the front? Oh and where can i get the power/wires to do the footwell lighting and the roof lighting..?

deaney
08-04-2005, 23:17
Question... anybody know how i can somehow get another festoon bulb on the roof, i wanna position one closer to the front (like reading lights), Is there a device, sorta like the current courtesy lamp unit that is encased in fglass/plastic that i can simply attach to the front? Oh and where can i get the power/wires to do the footwell lighting and the roof lighting..?


For the roof........ **** that people normally use the MGF front mirror coversion thingey.

For the footwell lighting just use something like a live running from your battery.... im not to sure about the roof lighting.. someone will soon turn up and say no doubt.

HTH :err:

Naj
09-04-2005, 13:02
Hmmm, yeah suppose i could have it live and running from the battery, oh and that would give me a reason to buy a swiitch and place that on my dash board, cool!

As for the roof, i will check out the MGF front mirror conversion "thingy". But was hoping that i could have it syncd with the open/colse door system with the courtesy lamp.

Somebody wanted to know what leds i had used:

-501 Blue 6 leds (dials)
-31-35mm blue festoon bulb (courtasey lamp)

However, i have ordered some more powerfull bulbs and some nice blue tinted ones for the front sidelamps, so dont go buying just yet a i will keep ya posted on whats better!

Sejin26
09-04-2005, 13:36
The F's mirror is available as a kit for the 200/400/25/45/ZR/ZS and SW from dealers. It works with the interior light so still fade in and out with the alarm etc. It also means at night you have two map lights. The foot well lights can also be used from an F/TF but you will have to cut a square out of the dash to install them. Many people wit MK3's have done that. If you want the part number for the kit and a price I can get you it this afternoon.

*Mike*
09-04-2005, 14:02
This is mine Naj:

This shows the footwell lights (from the back doors of an 800) and the MGF rear view mirror.

Its all standard bulbs, and all are wired into the courtesy light circuit, so they all mimic the courtesy light.

Naj
09-04-2005, 14:49
Hey, thats what im after!

I have looked up about the lights, seen some of the MGF mirrors on ebay, there is just one wire, is this the one that wires into the courtasy lamp circuit and if so h ow do i do it...?

As for the footwell, that does look like a good idea, see if i can get some from a scrappy.

Sejin26
09-04-2005, 15:26
The F mirror has 3 wires on it. You also have to take the headlining out so you can install the wires up the side of the drivers door.

Dr Dave
09-04-2005, 17:58
Nah, just tuck the wiring up under the front edge of the lining, it might help to remove the sunvisors to do so.

Orion
09-04-2005, 18:02
and all are wired into the courtesy light circuit,

From where, please? Did you take off from just behind the fusebox?

*Mike*
09-04-2005, 18:40
There is a plug and socket to the courtesy light circuit just behind the dash, by the headlight adjust switch, (this is on a mk3 200).

I just tapped into the two wires using scotchlock connectors from halfords.

One is a perm live, the other is a switched earth.

For the rear view mirror, I ran three length of wire to the courtesy light, then soldered on to the connections in there. I then cut the plug off of the mirror and bullet crimped the new wiring and the mirror wiring together.

And it all works perfectly, mimics the courtesy light exactly.

The hariest bit was cutting the dash to put the lights in there. I didnt know how to take it out at the time, so did it all in situe!!!

Dr Dave
09-04-2005, 19:14
Wonder what that connector is for?

Naj
09-04-2005, 21:34
I haven't taken delivery of my new bulbs yet but i fixed the middel bulb and here are some pic, the blue isn't that clear during light but is easily seen during the dark. I think the dials do suffer from less light around the top, hopefully the new bulbs will spread the light lout better....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/CopyofImage30.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/Image12.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/My%20CAr-%20Rover%20214Si%2016V/a37e06ac.jpg

*Mike*
09-04-2005, 22:41
Wonder what that connector is for?

Think it just joins the wiring out of the fuse box to the courtesy circuit loom.

misterreliable
09-04-2005, 23:00
..not into owt like this personally, but nice to see your tickover speed and temp gauge are spot on Naj.

Naj
10-04-2005, 11:28
..not into owt like this personally, but nice to see your tickover speed and temp gauge are spot on Naj.

Lol, i had alot of problems with the idle speed and temperature. All sorted now so kinda relieved to say the dials as they are!

Naj
17-04-2005, 16:47
AHH, HELP NEEDED!

I replaced one of the bulbs in my instrument panel with one of these
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/9ledblue.jpg

It has 9 leds and as u can see the head is much bigger. So the only way to fit it to the bulb holder was to open up the instrument panel, take of the dials and, put the back end of the bulb through first then clip it in the the holder on the other side. While i was tryna take of the temp dial and needle, i accidently broke the neede off the motor.

Now im buggerd! How the hell do u take off the needle anyway...? Basically what i need is a spare motor and needle unit for the temp gauge. Has anybody got one lying around or no how i can get one..? Is that motor unit in my 97 214Si the same as in other Rovers.... PLASE HELP!

Naj
20-04-2005, 18:26
Still waiting for some help on the above post please....!

Installed a new bulb for the courtesy light as the previous one i bought was too small. This one is bigger then i would have liked but has 9leds and as you can see from the pic even during daylight the blue is quite bright.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/Image13.jpg

CRNeo
20-04-2005, 19:19
So is it better to use the 6 led ones then?

Do you not think that the (501) Blue Ultra Bright Frosted Bulb would disperse the light better??

Naj
20-04-2005, 19:25
Tbh, the i have 2 501 9 leds in the instrument panel with 1 4 or 6 led, obviously the 9 leds produce a greater intensity of blue light but obly covers a slightly biffer area of the display. The tops of the speedo and rev counter still lack the bright light i would hope for, buts its readable.

The 9led festoon bulb for the courtesy lamp has worked a treat!

CRNeo
20-04-2005, 19:28
Just wondering about buying the frosted 10mm blue super bright coz the frosting shud cover more area?

Naj
20-04-2005, 19:51
I agree that the frosted bulbs do offer a wider disperse of light but i don't think they are blue enough. I cant remember which ones i got, they were 501 frosted blue, i put them in the side lights, but even though the bulb surface is coated with blue the actual light looks white, more yellowish.

CRNeo
20-04-2005, 22:29
Kool, think I'll get some of the 6 led blue ones then and give them a go

*Mike*
21-04-2005, 06:58
When you connect up the LED's, do they fit straight into the standard holders, or do you have to solder them in???

Also, do you use resistors to drop the voltage to them, or do you just supply them with straight 12V???

CRNeo
21-04-2005, 07:34
When you connect up the LED's, do they fit straight into the standard holders, or do you have to solder them in???

Also, do you use resistors to drop the voltage to them, or do you just supply them with straight 12V???

As far as I'm aware the ones on ultraleds.co.uk are just a straight swap, the resistors etc are all built in, connectors are the same

*Mike*
21-04-2005, 18:07
Thats intresting... that is very interesting!!!

Naj
21-04-2005, 20:02
Yep, the ones off ultraleds.co.uk are a straight swap so can take 12v power supply. So no need of soldering hem in, ive ordered about 10 different types of bulbs to see which are best, they all fit and work, except for the 501 9led which is really big and does fit the holder but wouldn't fit in say the space in the side headlight or the instrument panel without any further modifications.

Just to show you how good the lights are (as if i aint already shown enuf pics!)

501 Zenon Super Bright white 6led, the blue ones for me where 2 blue, this is a crystal clear white.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/Image15.jpg


The 9led blue festoon bulb puts a big smile on myface during night. Now need to get 2 more toward the front!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Hussain1/Image19.jpg

Kaine_2k
22-04-2005, 19:46
I'm not quite understanding this,

I looked at the 501's but they dont look like they'd fit behind the dash as they don't have the twist lock base. Or can you remove the existing bulbs from the screwlock and plug the 501's into it?

(or am I just a dumbass?)

Naj
22-04-2005, 20:24
I'm not quite understanding this,

I looked at the 501's but they dont look like they'd fit behind the dash as they don't have the twist lock base. Or can you remove the existing bulbs from the screwlock and plug the 501's into it?

(or am I just a dumbass?)


YES YOUR A DUMBASS!!!!! (joking mate, i was one b4 i came here!)

Yeah the 501 is just the bulb and fits into the plastic holder ibehind the instrument panel. have you ever changed the sidelight...? Cuz u would know they too are just a pull out/push in fit! The twist lock are different, they are smaller bulbs and operate the warning lights.

Simple, cheap and very effective!

Naj
22-04-2005, 20:27
If you don't know already, there are a number of twist lock bulbs and 3 501 bulbs behind the instrument panel, well on my 97 214Si anyway.

SteveCac
16-06-2005, 17:59
Does anybody know if you can get the really small bulbs or led's , for use in the rear de-mister and fog-light switch in my 600?

*Mike*
16-06-2005, 20:15
Naj, it would be handy if you could write a list of the lamps used in your car, as there are always people asking about this, and you have gone to town on it.

I love those LED headlamps, are they really good enough to drive by??? Are they legal???

SteveCac
17-06-2005, 07:34
A list would be handy, although I'm presuming that most bulbs or leds will be the same on different models.

I will be looking into changing all mine later, but the one that's blown for me is a 0.84w bulb which I cant seem to find anywhere.

Kaine_2k
17-06-2005, 15:05
My clock bulb went the other day, so I went to caffyns and got a new one. was £3.60...

alt
02-10-2005, 10:21
Did those LED's in the headlight not melt due to them being so close to the headlight?

Naj
02-10-2005, 10:39
I'll have a look later on today, but they work as they did on the day i put them in!

alt
02-10-2005, 10:43
Good stuff!

I'm after ordering a set myself, as im sick of the yellowish tint off standard fillimant ones.