: Tourer engine


NandoDave
03-07-2005, 22:03
Can anyone tell me an equivalent model to my late 97 Rover Tourer SE, K Series DOHC 1.6 for engine parts. I've bought parts from Halfords for servicing and all seemed fine until I came to the air filter, when its too big to fit in the hole the old one came out of (incidentally the old on is a halfords filter so I knew which model I needed!). So, I have only come to the conclusion it is not the same 1.6 engine put into the other rover 400's of this time (bubble shape), so if anyone could provide me with a model for reference when purchasing engine parts I would be very grateful.

Cheers
Dave

Richard Moss
03-07-2005, 22:51
I would have expected your car to have a Rover K series engine, but it may be the Honda D series engine as fitted to earlier 400s.

The simple way to tell is to stand in front of the car, looking into the engine bay. If the distrubutor is on the right hand side it's the Rover K series and if it's on the left it's the Honda D series.

The D series was in the 1989-1995 200/400 and some later cars (particularly auto transmission models). The K series will be in most 1996 onward 216 and 416 models.

Dr Dave
04-07-2005, 10:39
There are indeed two different air filters - you've got an early filter suppplied by Halfords - you need the bigger, later filter.

Motaquip reference VFA530 - early
Motaquip reference VFA795 - later

NandoDave
04-07-2005, 23:21
Think its the other way around. I got the filter for the 416 1600 K-Series 109bhp (the other option was 416 1600 K-Series 111Bhp which was a round filter and totally wrong!). This filter was too big for the hole in my car... I got the model that was already in the car as a replacement from Halfords, however I'm worrying about which engine is actually in my car (as its not just simply a rover 416, it was the tourer model). When buying parts for the engine, what engine do I need to use as a parts reference (it's obviously not the 1600 416 109Bhp) such as a 216 K-series engine. Oh and I knew the engine was a K-series, but thanks Richard Moss.

Cheers
Dave

CRNeo
04-07-2005, 23:33
The tourer engines are no different from the wedge shape 216 and 416 as far as I'm aware??? You should be able to use the parts from them fine....

The only other engines they did in the tourers were the honda engine and the 2 litre T series wasn't it??

NandoDave
05-07-2005, 10:52
So I should be looking at Rover 416 DOHC K-series engines to 1995 for my 1997 Rover Tourer 1.6SE? I thought all 1.6 engines in the wedge shape were D-series as my 216 coupe had one and was one of the later ones from my recollection.

nickvatman
05-07-2005, 11:24
the 1996/7 tourers do have different air filters to the norm- the VFA 530 fits mine. Interestingly the motor factors I use has a database which is supposed to tell them which parts the car uses. Not only was the airfilter information wrong, but its data base has my car as a manual when it has CVT!

NandoDave
05-07-2005, 18:40
so... is it just the air filter then do you think? I think its more likely to be a whole different engine to the Rover 400's of 1997, any ideas?

nickvatman
07-07-2005, 06:18
I think you have a K series, with a few mods. Just don't trust the motor factors databases.

Dr Dave
07-07-2005, 06:41
Give me your reg number and I'll be able to tell ya for sure.

SFulcher
07-07-2005, 07:53
The tourer engines are no different from the wedge shape 216 and 416 as far as I'm aware??? You should be able to use the parts from them fine....

The only other engines they did in the tourers were the honda engine and the 2 litre T series wasn't it??

The wedge shape 216 and 416 used HONDA engines.

nickvatman
13-07-2005, 06:31
beg to difer the later 416 tourers P onwards definately have k and not honda engines. I should know as I have one in my car.

NandoDave
15-07-2005, 08:01
OK, I think we need to get something clear as this thread has gone in a complete circle at least twice. The Rover Tourer (& Coupe and Cabriolet) 1.6's were originally build with the same honda engines as the wedge shape cars or the early 90's. However, when Rover scrapped its deal with honda for their engines, they continued to make the above models until 1999 (there are some V reg tourers around). So for this period, from if my memory serves me, late 96 until 99, the 1.6 versions of the above cars were produced with Rover K series engines. My original question for the thread was which K series as it doesn't tally with the Rover 400 1.6 K'series engine that was made at the same time. I'm coming to the conclusion it is the same setup as a Rover 200 1.6 K series set up, but I'm still only about 1% sure!


Dave