Mines gotta be the V12 850

http://www.mcsmk8.com/91-850/91850-01.JPG


which is yours?

probably the e46 csl..in fact yes that is it..the sound of the straight six is stunning.. i reallt must buy a 330 at some point..
in fact, next car.. e46 330. should be able to afford one in a couple of years :bgrin2:

I really love the current BMW 5 Series. Flame me if you want. :eek:

I really love the current BMW 5 Series. Flame me if you want. :eek:

someone wil prob go mad for this whole thread in a minute lol...i like the style of all the new bmw's with the exception of the x3. 3 series esate is very good looking... makes you wonder why people even by benz's

Ohhh, starting a topic like this on an MG Rover forum? Now THAT takes balls! My all-time favorite BMW has got to be the E23 7-Series. Total class that one.

I really love the current BMW 5 Series. Flame me if you want. :eek:

Probably my 'fav' too. Theres just something impressive about it, 'specially the M5. Although a large majority of drivers are probably (<<not fact, just probably; my personal opinion) ***75... :shake::ziplip::bored:

Favourite BMW is a.............................

Rover 75.

Best bit of BMW's tenure of MGR was its big input, not sole input into the 75.

Worst BMW. The 1, 3 , 5 and 7. All hideous to look at.

I liked the M1 but then BMWs only looked good when done by Itlalians (IMHO).

i love the (now ancient) E34 5 series, had an understated elegance in dark colours (but not red...please god not red)

Any BMW that has either broken down at the side of the road or been through the crusher!

Man you got nuts of steel posting that here! But as we're on the subject.....

1973 3.0 CSL, what a car. And if none of you know what it is shame on you!

http://www.heritageclassics.com/bmw/73blk3.0csl/Page.html

What a snip at that money.....

Man you got nuts of steel posting that here! But as we're on the subject.....

1973 3.0 CSL, what a car. And if none of you know what it is shame on you!

http://www.heritageclassics.com/bmw/73blk3.0csl/Page.html

What a snip at that money.....

My nephew had one - long time ago and huge running costs meant it had to go. He did not kkep it long.

E12 M535i

I loved mine, though it scared the hell out of me

Well, can't really chose between the Figoni & Falaschi 328 and the 327/28 coupe.

The 5 series before the current one, 530D sport with the M-Tech styling, lush :D

I like the E46, the new 3 series looks too bland in an Asian way. The 5 series looks better. I had a 328 coupe sport before my ZT and it was nice but not as good a driver's car as the ZT. :D Girlfriend has a 2.8 Z3 - which has started making a whining noise from the front so a think an auxillary bearing is going, only done 55K miles!! Brother had a Z3 and the water pump blew taking the radiator shroud and other bits with it. My brother now has a M coupe - the one that is a Z3 estate type thingy. i like it but women don't really, 2 seater but with a good practical boot.

I do like the Z4, but would probably have a Boxster. :D

Favourite BMW? An oxymoron surely.

i really liked the old 635csi,s

So hard to decide.

http://home.tiscali.nl/%7Errcgog/auto/foto/BMW/BMW%209.jpg

http://classics.com/r9b328.jpg
http://www.blackhawkauto.org/autocollection/profiles/profile_art/bmw/38bmw20.JPEG
http://www.blackhawkauto.org/autocollection/profiles/profile_art/bmw/38bmw23.JPEG

The 850 is one of the worst cars BMW ever made!


My fav is the E30 M3!


Andrew

My choice is the car I picked up used at B*W HQ in Milbertshofen/Munich and drove for two years almost without depreciation:

The E30 3 series Touring!

http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3050120.003/1019.jpg

Mind you, I think the 1980s B*W range looked perfect and has gone ever further downhill since.

pat

The "Isetta" is - in my opinion - the coolest BMW ever built: :bgrin:

http://www.germancarfans.com/classics/5050328.001/5050328.001.1M.jpg

Re: Isetta:

Walter Hasselkus (erstwhile boss at Rover) used to say at parties: "I drive a BMW". When he had enticed an impressionable young thing outside, she would see the car in question (Isetta) and crack up!

pat

E39 M5 very good choice! The 850 has too many problems, and was a poor seller.

Andrew

any one on the hard shoulder with steam coming out the bonnet!

Current M6

I must admit to being fond of the E30 3-series saloon. It's an uncluttered shape

Re: Isetta:

Walter Hasselkus (erstwhile boss at Rover) used to say at parties: "I drive a BMW". When he had enticed an impressionable young thing outside, she would see the car in question (Isetta) and crack up!

pat

He had a good sense of humour then!

I used to say something similar to girls when I was a teenager, but it was when giving directions to my parents house.

"When you see the big Mercedes you're at our house."

So they'd get there and see..... a Mercedes 306D pickup!

Oddly, I would only see them the once :sad2:

thnik my fav would be either a new soft top 6 series, or the new M5.

E36 M3 Evo, preferably in Estoril Blue would be the only B*W I'd ever consider. :)

My nephew had one - long time ago and huge running costs meant it had to go. He did not kkep it long.

Worth every penny though i bet :D

Worth every penny though i bet :Di had a couple of 5 series before my 260 ,runing costs were about he same this myth that bmw are a money pit is rather silly, there not there a well engineered product and costs are no higher than any other car in the executive class rovers included

He had a good sense of humour then!

I used to say something similar to girls when I was a teenager, but it was when giving directions to my parents house.

"When you see the big Mercedes you're at our house."

So they'd get there and see..... a Mercedes 306D pickup!

Oddly, I would only see them the once :sad2:Mr. Hasselkus is an upright and honourable man. If all the other BMW managers from the merger days had been the same, there would still be a flourishing British-made Rover/Land-Rover/Mini concern.

Apparently, Mr. Hasselkus's Austin-Healey 3000 was the only non-BMW in the Milbertshofen car park. The 75 is the sort of car he wanted the merger to produce successfully.

When it became clear things were not going to plan, he - honourably - resigned. Something we did not see from Wolfgang Reitzle (last heard of at fork-lift trucks/industrial gases concern Linde) or Berndt "the toast" Pischetsrieder! (Volkswagen)...

pat

PS was also taken out into the woods for a drive by a young filly once in a Merc van. She didn't realise she had to pull out the starter before turning the key (or was it the other way round? I wasn't saying!)

the e60 m5 great car

the e63 m6 awsome car (they scare me)

the e36 zm coupe what a drivers car by far my fave

only thing that might be better is the forth coming e85 zm coupe

or the e90 m3 that is rummerd to have the s62 v8 from the e39 m5

Ben's .......... forgotten his surname but theres a guy on this forum called ben something or other who has a stunning BMW

Ben's .......... forgotten his surname but theres a guy on this forum called ben something or other who has a stunning BMW


Ben cole, he had a 330 ci IIRC. but am sure he has sold it and bought a porsche boxter now.

any one on the hard shoulder with steam coming out the bonnet!

You Rascal! ... not a rare sight by any means...

Whats Your Favorite Bmw!!!!!!!!!!! I Dont Believe You People !!!!!!!!!this Is A Rover /mg Forum If You Want To Discuss That Kraut Crap Go Elsewhere

and this is the "other manufacturer" section..i do believe bmw are another manufacturer, so this is perfectly valid..
i was waiting for oscar the grouch to appear from his bin, i see you are him for today on this thread...
well done good sir

http://noisyninja.tripod.com/images/Oscar%20The%20Grouch.jpg

and theres a commemorative photo :xmas:


*edit*

btw you never answered my question in another thread.. when i asked what british company made a small capacity motorbike that i could have bought instead of my chinese "crap"

I have a shameful attraction to the latest 5 series, but you'll never get me to admit it in public.

I have a shameful attraction to the latest 5 series, but you'll never get me to admit it in public.


like you did then :dddc: lol

Whats Your Favorite Bmw!!!!!!!!!!! I Dont Believe You People !!!!!!!!!this Is A Rover /mg Forum If You Want To Discuss That Kraut Crap Go Elsewhere

Hey He he he ... there's passion for you....

Way to go rover jockey..:)

Whats Your Favorite Bmw!!!!!!!!!!! I Dont Believe You People !!!!!!!!!this Is A Rover /mg Forum If You Want To Discuss That Kraut Crap Go Elsewhere i take it you dont hold the products of the bavarian motor werkes in particulary high regard then jockey? any valid reasons for this view or is it pure ignorance and bigotry?

The latest 5 series.

When I first saw it I thought 'WTF?', I couldn't believe it - I thought BMW had dropped the ball. But now when I see them as dramatic and eye-catching. A real grow on you car.

Let down badly by it's drivers though.

The latest 5 series.

When I first saw it I thought 'WTF?', I couldn't believe it - I thought BMW had dropped the ball. But now when I see them as dramatic and eye-catching. A real grow on you car.


Well, they seem to age slower than competitors. When the Audi A6 was out I tought it looked better, but now the 5er grew more on me (not to mention the M5' and the A6 seems a bit old IMO) .
Bangle was for me the saviour of BMW design, at least for the 5er and 7er.

Bangle was for me the saviour of BMW design, at least for the 5er and 7er.

someone who agrees lol..i think that too.. before him all bmw's were the same (read dull) but now they have flair and excitement.. and if people are talking aobut them, all the better for bmw

Why have we got a topic 'What is the Best BMW?'

Is this a wind up?

Talk about trying to start an argument. Why the hell aren't there 'favourite alfa/citroen/vw et cetra?!

Jesus H Christ!

For the record,

THERE IS NO GOOD BMW

andrew with that kind of informed attitude one day you could grow to be "rover jockey" ..yay

i think this topic is entirely fair and just.. why not have favorites of other manufacturers then.. you may have jsut started something lol

Oh yeah...for the record, before anyone starts making 'oh why do you always pick on BMW' remarks, I'll illiterate

BMW ruined killed a company that was on a high, killing it as competition by slowly suffercating it. It then made Rover develop and spend its money on cars that were not going to end up with Rover.

So, thats my reason for why we shouldn't have a topic saying 'Favourite BMW' and then having the nerve to ask why someone *might* be slightly bitter about it.

I'll be honest, I'm am totally bitter of BMW. I will never own a BMW. I will NEVER want a BMW. I'd rather own a Yugo.

My question is, would you make a topic in a London community forums, about who their favourite terrorist organsization is?!

someone who agrees lol..i think that too.. before him all bmw's were the same (read dull) but now they have flair and excitement.. and if people are talking aobut them, all the better for bmw
Hmmm, well I never liked the E39 5er (except the M5), nor the Face Lifted E38 7er.

Talk about trying to start an argument. Why the hell aren't there 'favourite alfa/citroen/vw et cetra?!



Alfa: 159
Citreon DS (1960s)
VW: Camper (and I liked the Corrado)

Alfa: 159
Citreon DS (1960s)
VW: Camper (and I liked the Corrado)

what about the sm? now that was a crazy car..citroen maserati lol

Most of the cars he's designed are plain ugly, no shape just a big mess of clashing lines. Shame cause the cars themselves are better than ever
Yeah, and they're also selling better than ever.

ndrew with that kind of informed attitude one day you could grow to be "rover jockey" ..yay

No, you are the one in the wrong budday.
This topic is here simply to spite hardcore enthusiasts, who have moral issues with BMW.

If this was any other manufacturer, I'd join in. But this is a JOKE!

This is here to start a war, or for some blinkered rose tinted BMW wanna-be owners to cause some trouble.

To illiterate, this is 'other manufacturers' section. But to put in some context, it is similar to posting in a Jewish community forum, under 'general chat' about who their favourite Nazi war criminal was.

well why have other manufacturer chat at all.. it would be easier with out it... i know lets all gloss over the rest of the world.. im sure someone will be along any minute to say how bl was robbed in the 70's, that usually happens in every post

Alfa: 159
Citreon DS (1960s)
VW: Camper (and I liked the Corrado)
Well I'll take the:
DS 100
Alfa 8C (the legend from the '30s)
VW Touareg W12.

Comparing a BMW to a terrorist organization? Isn't that just a tad extreme, even for an MG Rover forum? Granted, BMW were terrible stewards of Rover, but then so was BAe, the P4, the people who ran it as a public company in the 60's and 70's, and to a certain extent, the government. So many hands had a share in the downfall of what became MG Rover, isn't it somewhat disingenuous to constantly single out one? It was under BMW's watch that Londbridge underwent major upgrades and renovations and Rover developed their first totally in-house saloon car in years.

Rather than blame the whole company, why not single out the faction within the company that opposed the Rover purchase in the first place, then attempted to sabotage to company to justify a quick sell-off. There were still many people in BMW who valued Rover right to the end, but with the losses racking up, they were sadly outvoted.

This is here to start a war, or for some blinkered rose tinted BMW wanna-be owners to cause some trouble.



Best not rise to it then.

aah but bob your forgetting it was the fault of the evil 3 series that rover went under.. single handedly it managed to ruin the company..i think it was like in the film "the car".. 3 series' used to drive around and attack poor little rover 400's, and the 7 series personally ran a smear campaign against the 100.
it was the fault of the car's you see, not the bmw management at all. :eyes:

Comparing a BMW to a terrorist organization? Isn't that just a tad extreme, even for an MG Rover forum? Granted, BMW were terrible stewards of Rover, but then so was BAe, the P4, the people who ran it as a public company in the 60's and 70's, and to a certain extent, the government. So many hands had a share in the downfall of what became MG Rover, isn't it somewhat disingenuous to constantly single out one? It was under BMW's watch that Londbridge underwent major upgrades and renovations and Rover developed their first totally in-house saloon car in years.

Rather than blame the whole company, why not single out the faction within the company that opposed the Rover purchase in the first place, then attempted to sabotage to company to justify a quick sell-off. There were still many people in BMW who valued Rover right to the end, but with the losses racking up, they were sadly outvoted.

Well partialy true, but if those people were heavily outvoted Wolfgang Reitzle would have been BMW boss. But the situation at BMW meant nor Bernd Pischetsrieder nor Wolfgang Reitzle could control the company and the Quandts have had enough of Rover's loses. Nevertheless, Land Rover and MINI were saved by BMW. (javascript://)

back on topic please gents

Street, I've said this -

Why is it not about any other company - just BMW?

Secondly, what would you know of my opinion of Jezza Clarkson? I haven't publically stated - bar having actually defended him on a couple of occasions.

I pay my dues, and I look around the site.

This topic is IN-APPROPRIATE.

back on topic please gents
Okay, still can't decide.
Maybe I should make a list of favorite bimmers.

newer one s I would say the M3 CSL, or maybe the convertible

but you cant beat a bit of E30 325 rally slag! or any of the 8 series for that matter

for the record rover killed itself, not clarkson, not BMW and not a newspaper

Wrong. BMW used Rovers money to develop and engineer the MINI, the new Range Rover, the FreeLander.

One car BMW did help towards (Financially) the development, was the R75. However, not the car Rover needed. It kept the 400 replacment (R30), it sold of Rovers main profit area, its sold Rovers research and development facilities, its killed the brand status that Rover had built up for itself.

So no, BMW has perhaps, one of the biggest chunks to blame. Others would include BAe, the Government ministers and so on.

This is not about anything other, than BMW!

i take it you dont hold the products of the bavarian motor werkes in particulary high regard then jockey? any valid reasons for this view or is it pure ignorance and bigotry?

In my case 'pure ignorance and bigotry' plus extraordinary fine taste in automotive excellence .... :)

Ok calm it down. This IS a perfectly valid thread. If you don't like the discussion, leave this thread. Don't judge BMW cars based on how BMW managed Rover lest we judge MG and Rover cars on how the P4 managed MG-Rover. These "hatred of BMW" threads do nothing for the forums and will never be resolved through purile bickerring.

We WILL delete innapropriate posts from this point on. You have been warned.

Street, I've said this -

Why is it not about any other company - just BMW?

Secondly, what would you know of my opinion of Jezza Clarkson? I haven't publically stated - bar having actually defended him on a couple of occasions.

I pay my dues, and I look around the site.

This topic is IN-APPROPRIATE.
This topic is not in-appropriate, but it can be sensitive.
Just because BMW has been a :***: on Rover, doesn't mean we can't appreciate the engineering in their cars. You don't have to accept what I said there but at least let other people discuss about it.

Well I'll take the:
VW Touareg W12.

The tourag with the derv engine in it, awesome! :D Such power in that its unreal :lol:

The tourag with the derv engine in it, awesome! :D Such power in that its unreal :lol:
Yep. But my God considering the price and performance it's unbelivable it's a "People's Car". LOL.

Well yeah very good point! Mind you, it is sort of a premium car i suppose, you see one of them on a 55 plate and you know they've got a bit of spare cash :)

I saw a new M5 the other day, just love them! best start saving up! something like a £55k price tag arnt they?

I have always liked the M5, the older M3 and the gorgeous M6 with the M5 engine shown on Top gear last Sunday. If only......... :(

I have always liked the M5, the older M3 and the gorgeous M6 with the M5 engine shown on Top gear last Sunday. If only......... :(

You never know baz, one day be millionaires (sp?) :lol:

You never know baz, one day be millionaires (sp?) :lol:

Well we can dream can't we? :lol: A 330ci Sport would do for the time being. In my opinion it's a beautifully designed car and the performance is quite good as well :)

Tourag or whatever its called with that V10 diesel for me!

Definatly mate! Meself, have a machine like the 535 Diesel to potter around in and have a nice SD1 vitty in the garage :cool:

Trouble is - with a big diesel - they're getting expensive to run nowadays!

reading the figures (i know not 100% ;) ) it will still return about 43mpg

or run the derv on veggy oil ;)

3.0 CSi - beautiful and I would buy one (after a stag and Bristol 411)

For me it has to be the E30 series Alpina 323 or 325i cars, nothing since has ever really appealed to me. The only Modern BMW i ever even remotely liked was the 318ti compact, but that's still no proper hot hatch.

was also taken out into the woods for a drive by a young filly once in a Merc van. She didn't realise she had to pull out the starter before turning the key (or was it the other way round? I wasn't saying!)

Ah yes, I remember the van well as my father had one of those too. A Ford Capri once hit it when parked on the road. Small dent in the back of the van. Said Capris was a good foot shorter.........

Oh, you pulled the starter after the glow plugs went out by the way. But I would hope you kept mum for a long, long while......... :D

hmm, favourtite BMW. I don't much care for any of them, as, well, they're BMWs, but to make a casual observation, I would say the 850 was a rarity although outclassed by it's competition. The Z8 would probably have to be it.

<Shame Mode>
Have to admit it, I've always quite liked the 850s and the current (I think) 3 Series convertibles.
</Shame Mode>
That said, shame most of them are driven by arrogant ******s!

<Patriotic Mode>
My favourite BMW is a crushed BMW
</Patrotic Mode>

;)

Blinkin eck, there's some narrow minded twits ere!
So just cuz we drive a rover we can't POSSIBLY be allowed to like BMW's?

Really, I'm a married man but I still look at bits of skirt going the other way (as long as they're "a lady"!!!!)...

On a note, them Tourag things, I really really detest them (more for the people they represent, not the cars they are) BUT when the CLK Convertible broke down on my wedding day (It got my wife TO the church, and then packed up thank god), I wasn't ashamed to have the Substitute car, a Toureag V10 Diesel (leather, walnut, big shiny wheels etc) take me to the reception. They really are very comfy and well built (but i felt a bit pompus getting in it).

Now, I'm just gonna duck behind this wall a second.....

(shouts from behind wall) ALL of the latest M series cars are a technical Tour De force. You may not like them, but you really have to respect them for being such a quality product.

I've always been a bit ambivalent about the 850 after driving my then Boss's example. Competent yes but without the traction controls wizardry playing mum it was a bit of a pig in a poke to be honest. And boy did it break down a lot......... but still it had quite a presence and was very comfortable over longer distances. Secondhand prices are pretty good for them I see.

Rich man's probe apparently.

I still find them quite cool in a "I bet the V12 goes" kinda way.

Rich man's probe apparently.

I still find them quite cool in a "I bet the V12 goes" kinda way.

:D

Gareth Cheesman's dream car then!

If i could get insured i'd be interested in something like this :cool:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98S-BMW-INDIVIDUAL-840-CI-SPORT-STEP-BUY-IT-NOW-15000_W0QQitemZ4589071226QQcategoryZ9837QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

surely it isnt worth that much tho.. they usually are a lot cheaper

Not with those seats! My God that is not a nice example!

This thread has made my opioin on the forum increase a bit, i was expecting a slag fest here

Well done boys :beer:

Cheers deano just found a pic of Ben cole's OLD BMW stunning in my eyes



http://www.btinternet.com/~bencole45/beamer.jpg

Does anyone know whats its called? love to know how much that would set me back

Cheers deano just found a pic of Ben cole's OLD BMW stunning in my eyes



http://www.btinternet.com/~bencole45/beamer.jpg

That's exactly the same even down to the colour of one I looked at buying last year.

Well my favourite BMW is probably the 507!

http://zouzouille147.free.fr/Forum-Auto/BMW507.jpg

John Surtess still has the one given to him.

Hmm you dont see that many 8s do you. Nice cars, love the way the frameless door glass drops a nats knacker to clear the seal when you open the door and they are very comfy, but im sure i remember them being prettier than that. That interior is awful!

aah but bob your forgetting it was the fault of the evil 3 series that rover went under.. single handedly it managed to ruin the company..i think it was like in the film "the car".. 3 series' used to drive around and attack poor little rover 400's, and the 7 series personally ran a smear campaign against the 100. it was the fault of the car's you see, not the bmw management at all. :eyes:

:lol:

Good to see someone on this forum who doesn't take it all so seriously all the time. Like me you drive a MGR car but appreciate that there are other cars out there and some of them are actually quite good.

For me the best of the current BMW range is the 5-series, it looks built like a tank but has real style too. I just wish they'd taken that blueprint and scaled it down (and possibly sorted the rear end) for the new 3-series, which is unbelievably dull. Shame as it's supposed to be an excellent car. The rest of the range I don't like at all, although the 6 comes close.

It's a real shame they made a mess of the 1-series styling too, since I do like the sound of that new 130i. A fantastic straight six three litre engine with 258bhp in a small package like that. If they facelift that car and sort the looks I'd seriously consider one :shh:

Well my favourite BMW is probably the 507!

http://zouzouille147.free.fr/Forum-Auto/BMW507.jpg

OH MY SWEET JESUS!!!

i think ive just had kittens, thats stunning!

This page just makes me reaslie which members are about as loyal to Rover, MG and Longbridge(this being the key word) as Judas.

:banghead:

Its sad to see the forum turn into this. It really is.

That BMW has a squished up front. Looks bloody terrible. Side profile is OK. But its pretty cacky.

This page just makes me reaslie which members are about as loyal to Rover, MG and Longbridge(this being the key word) as Judas.

:banghead:

Its sad to see the forum turn into this. It really is.


Get a grip

No, you need to get a grip. You're the one drooling all over BMWs claiming that anyone who doesn't slaver all over them is small minded.

If anything, you lot are small minded for thinking what you think, without taking into account how BMW has affected people personally in the real world.

This page just makes me reaslie which members are about as loyal to Rover, MG and Longbridge(this being the key word) as Judas.

:banghead:

Its sad to see the forum turn into this. It really is.

Andrew, yet again you are not allowing people the freedom of choice. I like many BMW's. That doesn't make me disloyal to the now sadly ex MG-Rover company. In fact, I own two MG's. Both brand new when purchased by me. I am so loyal I give much of my free time up to be a moderator of these forums AND the Xpower forums. Please take a step back and cease posting innapropriate comments that clearly inflame the discussion. We don't want to moderate these discussions but if you continue to post in this manner without consideration for others then we will have no choice.

The debate has been healthy and there are some cracking pictures in this thread. Let's keep it like that ok?

This page just makes me reaslie which members are about as loyal to Rover, MG and Longbridge(this being the key word) as Judas.

Normally I'd hit the roof at hearing something like that, but it's Friday night and I'm chilled out. What exactly are you asking people to be loyal to? The company has gone for pete's sake, I can't believe how many people on this site keep forgetting this. It's quite surprising how it's not sunk in, it was all over the news back in April and they clearly showed 6000 people leaving the gates of the factory never to return again. Left quite an impression on me...

We drive the cars, we love them, that's all there is to it. Sooner or later though, we're all going to have to go and buy something else. If we're lucky we can keep what we've got as a weekend car and buy something else to keep the miles down.

Get real!

Ah yes, I remember the van well as my father had one of those too. A Ford Capri once hit it when parked on the road. Small dent in the back of the van. Said Capris was a good foot shorter.........

Oh, you pulled the starter after the glow plugs went out by the way. But I would hope you kept mum for a long, long while......... :Dwell it was a big van with plenty of space in the back, we were lost in the woods right?

To this day I deliberately can't remember how to start one...

pat

PS Can it really be that no-one has mentioned the 2002 Touring yet?

http://www.automag.be/IMG/jpg/BMW_Touring.jpg

This page just makes me reaslie which members are about as loyal to Rover, MG and Longbridge(this being the key word) as Judas.

:banghead:

Its sad to see the forum turn into this. It really is.totally agree mate its disgracefull i ,and i speak for my ex workmates as well feel totally let down by these people ,then again its just another car to them tommorow they may well be posting on a nissan forum

Parsec, it is possible to remain loyal to something/someone even if it/they aren't there.

Buying a BMW is still backstabbing Longbridge. Your walking all over the grave of LB if you buy a product from the company that caused the biggest damage and put Rover et al on life support.

My sadness is caused by the lack of principles and loyalty some members have shown, now that the company is no more.

I mean, why is it so hard for us to stick together and defie BMW. You don't need a BMW. So why can't we stick together and buy future cars from companies that haven't tried to kill Rover at one point? Hmm? Is it really that hard? Do we have to make a song and dance about how wonderful BMW's are? Can we just not ignore the company?

Not a huge fan, but if I were forced to have one it'd be the Z8... Ideal for the intercontinental run with the top down, being LHD...

1995 E36 Bmw 325 tds saloon auto with sport pac and a chipped engine.

Nice chuckable rollerskate of a car, driven sideways everywere :devil2:

Buying a BMW is still backstabbing Longbridge. Your walking all over the grave of LB if you buy a product from the company that caused the biggest damage and put Rover et al on life support.

Ok, I appreciate what you're saying, but I guess the answer is this forum is inhabited by at least two types of person. One is the "die-hard" MGR fanatic and the other is the car enthusiast who just plain likes cars. I saw the value in helping Longbridge which is one of the reasons I bought a ZS180 about twelve months ago despite things not looking too healthy back then.

But the situation has changed very much since then, like anyone else when it all unfolded in April I waited for someone (Government even) to bail MGR out but it didn't happen. Crap though it is, we just have to accept the situation as it is.

My sadness is caused by the lack of principles and loyalty some members have shown, now that the company is no more.

I mean, why is it so hard for us to stick together and defie BMW. You don't need a BMW. So why can't we stick together and buy future cars from companies that haven't tried to kill Rover at one point? Hmm? Is it really that hard? Do we have to make a song and dance about how wonderful BMW's are? Can we just not ignore the company?

Do you not accept though that like any other company the management at BMW has changed and the people who made the decisions are no longer there? BMW has always been a private, stand-alone company, and it was only Piesetschrieder's influence that led them to buy Rover in the first place.

Parsec, it is possible to remain loyal to something/someone even if it/they aren't there.

Loyalty???

Can you believe I traded in a 2003 Hyundai Coupe which would still be under warranty until 2008 to buy my ZS!!!! Such was the guilt of owning a non-MGR car...

And my ZS has cost me over 500 quid in repairs since the car had it's warranty removed from it in April. Not meaning to bleat, but you're questioning my loyalty and thousands of pounds have gone down the drain thanks to the collapse of MGR, so do you see why it's annoying when people who've not had to shell out on their cars just sit there expecting people to keep singing the merry song even though the company is no longer there??!!!

i'm not sure about all this loyalty and principles going on here.
At the end of the day a rover or mg is just a car, even more now because there is no manufacturing base attached to it..

It is purely there for personal transport and enjoyment, nothing more. To me there was no hidden motive for buying my SW, i needed a new car for february, that took my fancy, i bought it. That was really how simple the process was. If i was honest if i'd thought about it more, and had more cash for the deposit i would have without a doubt bought another fortwo. But sadly i couldnt at the time.
I can understand if people were selling their mother's, but a car is a car at the end of the day it's not some huge emotional thing like a person or something... to me anyway.

I am no doubt in the evil 99% of people who buy cars they like and not because they feel the need to buy longbridge, that was just a happy coincidence to me.
Now i like my car, i really do it's the 2nd best i've ever had, but you could put a fso badge on it and i'd still like it, as i like the car not the badge glued to the front.
flame me all you like, but i thought i'd put my pennies in to the discussion.

well it was a big van with plenty of space in the back, we were lost in the woods right?

To this day I deliberately can't remember how to start one...

pat

PS Can it really be that no-one has mentioned the 2002 Touring yet?



:D Now that's style!

As for the Touring, that takes me back a bit. I got outbid to the tune of £20 for one at an auction when I was 17. Went for £330 iirc. Next up for bidding was an Allegro.....
I bought a 2CV instead and went on holiday in it, one MoT and new roof later it was sold it for a nice profit. Meant I could have myself a SD1 3500. And phew was it a stonker missus!

totally agree mate its disgracefull i ,and i speak for my ex workmates as well feel totally let down by these people ,then again its just another car to them tommorow they may well be posting on a nissan forum

He's back again folks..........

http://www.midnightphotos.co.uk/userimages/full/12/3447.jpg

Seem to remember the car park at Longbridge having it's fair share of other manufacturer's cars parked in it. Perhaps you should ask some of your fellow staff why they didn't buy the stuff they made?

He's back again folks..........

http://www.midnightphotos.co.uk/userimages/full/12/3447.jpg

Seem to remember the car park at Longbridge having it's fair share of other manufacturer's cars parked in it. Perhaps you should ask some of your fellow staff why they didn't buy the stuff they made?

Indeed. It happens everywhere. The car parks at Gaydon and Whitley are littered with all sorts of vehicles. Granted, I would say that the majority of them are produced by Ford-owned companies, but there's a sizeable chunk of other stuff (including some interesting stuff like a Lotus Elise 340R and a MiniMarcos). Just because you work for a particular car manufacturer doesn't necessarily mean that they produce a vehicle that is both to your taste and suits your needs.

Having said that, both of our cars are Ford now. My Volvo S60 T5 really is the mutts nuts. I only wish that MGR could have produced something comparable - to get the same level of performance I'd have needed a ZT260, which I couldn't have afforded to run. Having seen both a 75 and a S60 go through teardown too, I know which one of the two is better built. Sad but true.

My girlfriend's Focus TDCI Ghia does exactly what it says on the tin, and I'm ashamed to admit it, but I enjoy driving it more than I did my old chipped 220SDi.

As for BMWs, I really wouldn't mind a 535d at all. I'd buy one if I could afford it. No way am I being disloyal to MGR here - much as I am fond of them, they just didn't have a car in the range that suited me when it came time to change from my 220SDi.

Hell, if we start boycotting firms that have done some dubious things in the past, we might as well start digging a vegetable patch and living from stuff we've grown in our own garden. It's a tough world out there, and occasionally companies have to make tough decisions that although morally wrong are the best way to proceed. Sadly, for BMW, Rover Group had to go.

330D coupe in silver with sports pack. Fantastic looks, performance and reasonable economy (puts on flack jacket)

one of the pool cars at work as a e46 330d coupe.. it bloody flies. it's always being used, strange that people choose it over an avensis lol

love the new 5 series convertible :cloud9:

That's exactly the same even down to the colour of one I looked at buying last year.

Orient Blue, tan leather.
Maybe it was mine...spooky eh.

Ben's .......... forgotten his surname but theres a guy on this forum called ben something or other who has a stunning BMW

Sold it for 25.5...guy gave me cash for it because I couldn't use the bankers draft to pick up the Porsche that afternoon!!!!!!

In all seriousness, I sold it in May last year. Still miss it, stunning all rounder...the wife misses it even more than I do even though she was the one that wanted the Boxster S.

Recently looked at a 330d Sport cab. Once you get past the fact that it's a heinous crime to have a diesel open top car...it makes a pretty unbeatable all rounder.

http://www.btinternet.com/~bencole45/restbay.JPG


New car more than compensates though.....I absolutely punished a 330 sport on my private runway the other day, which was good as it reminded me why I bought it!

http://www.btinternet.com/~bencole45/newmotor.jpg

Hi Ben. Nice to see you around. :)

Hi Ben. Nice to see you around. :)

Likewise andy.

Still do a lot of reading..less posting. Recently thinking about getting a 25/ZR as a runaround though so I may be back in "full effect".

Just moved out of London so I now have a drive and a garage so parking isn't an issue....so I can buy as many cars as I like....LOL

Recently looked at a 330d Sport cab. Once you get past the fact that it's a heinous crime to have a diesel open top car...it makes a pretty unbeatable all rounder.


Ain't nothing wrong with an oil burner in whatever guise.

Fave BMW's....

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/gallery/tms_car_stefan_e30t_1.jpg
E30 3-series - yep I know, prefer the tourer

http://www.eurocarmotorsport.com/Image/aac_38.jpg
AC E38 7-series looks the business

http://www.johngodwin.net/5r6T3ghr0L/20a4s798x32/x765gh2787djhg477ag3665ad7d4a34d/__Met_BMW1.jpg
BMW's previous 5-series in it's best paint job.

I personally also like the much maligned 8-series, respect the Z8 for its understated awesome speed.

None of their new metal interests me at all though.

My favourite BMW? A dead one!:D

The 850i.

v12, nice interior...

Looks like the return of Ben Cole has brought this thread back to life.

I was going to say "Phoenix-like" but it's still going! ;)

In the interests of impartiality, I should also say I hope this remains a "no-Hassel"kus thread.

Like B*W, then.

Hi Ben and welcome back!

For an E30 Touring I refer the honorable vincero to my earlier post.

pat

PS By googling for "Walter Hasselkus" I found he is a non-executive director of Wincanton Fuels:

Walter is a non-executive Director of DAF Trucks NV, Chairman of the Supervisory Board Ehlebracht AG, non-executive Director of W.E.T. Holding (Lux) S.A. and Supervisory Board Member W.E.T. AG. His early career was with OSRAM GmbH and in 1972 he joined BMW where he held a variety of senior positions inter alia in the UK and South Africa. From 1996 to 1998 he was a member of the Board of Management BMW AG and Chairman and CEO Rover Group. He became a non-executive Director of Wincanton in January 2004.

has someone crayoned on the police paintjob on that 5 series.. they could at least have put the words "police" on the bonnet straight

Fave BMW has to be an E28 M5, the best M5 ever. No electro-technoe giggery, lots of power, great handling, shark looks. Great cars. Here's a particularly nice one on ebay:

http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/06/b9/44_12_sb.JPG

Stewart

has someone crayoned on the police paintjob on that 5 series.. they could at least have put the words "police" on the bonnet straightSaw a silver police car yesterday. I think the words like "police" are effectively heavy-duty Letraset action transfers! when they come to sell the cars, they just peel the transfers off! and silver sells better than white nowadays...

This means:

1) The appearance of our police cars (presumably) depends on the Pc equivalent of the office junior going out in all weathers to put the transfers on. How that is done will affect that car throughout its police life.

2) When buying an ex-police car, always look for fingernail scratch marks where the transfers used to be! (and if there's still a Spiderman on it, you'll know they couldn't get it off)...

pat

Saw a silver police car yesterday. I think the words like "police" are effectively heavy-duty Letraset action transfers! when they come to sell the cars, they just peel the transfers off! and silver sells better than white nowadays...

If anyone would like some realistic 'POLICE' lettering decals for your white or silver 75/ZT/anything, I do have a cutting plotter and some blue self-adhesive vinyl...:)

My favourite BMW has to be the Z1 - it has the same kind of elegance as the 850/840 but without the normal BMW 'arrogance' factor. Oh, and the doors disappear into the sills, which is pretty cool.

If only Michelotti's Scimitar SS1 had ended up looking more like the Z1, we might have had a British sports car success on our hands in the mid-80s.

http://www.allcarpictures.com/pictures/bmw/z1/bmw-z1.jpg

(from http://www.allcarpictures.com )

http://voiture.de.reve.free.fr/BMW/BMW%20Z1%20-%201988%20-%2001.jpg

(from http://voiture.de.reve.free.fr )

I disagree.

http://www.mg-rover.org/articles/news/01_nov/11_26_2.jpg

LOL, well I wasn't saying the BMW 5 made the best Z-car...... just that I think the previous 5-series has a thing about it when tarted up in Police decal.... it definitely looks best in lighter (silver) colours.

I would also like those who think this is a BMW love thread to note that the cars I've picked are those I've seen through the ages that I generally like the look of. In most cases I wouldn't actually have bought one (e.g. AC 7-series can't afford nor is the right car for me) or a late-80's 3-series touring (not fond of the interior trim or space). There is nothing wrong with looking around at the competition and acknowledging when they've got it right. Also, I do not like BMW at all at the moment - horrible cars, dislikable management, etc.

This thread could easily (ok maybe not that easily) be duplicated for Ford, Pug, etc.

What about this bmw :dddc:



http://gallery.mg-rover.org/data/523/medium/1bmr-0902-657_rover_75.jpg

Well, the M Coupe:

http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/742bfe98ab.jpg
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/6d98bc2886.jpg

those m coupes are awful compleatly disgusting. But they go like stink dont they?

i love the (now ancient) E34 5 series, had an understated elegance in dark colours (but not red...please god not red)

I had one of those.

Unfortunately it was......................................red:eek:

I had one of those.

Unfortunately it was......................................red:eek:

hold on a moment - your saying in other threads people are daft for buying bmw and then your admiting here that you have bought one yourself in the past?

that m coupe looks lush

hold on a moment - your saying in other threads people are daft for buying bmw and then your admiting here that you have bought one yourself in the past?

that m coupe looks lush

Yep i had one-that's how i know there not all there cracked up to be;)

that m coupe looks lush

:drool: my neighbour has it's predecessor.... a car I'd give my eye teeth to drive

http://www.368s.com/photos/photo001236_medium.jpg

those m coupes are awful compleatly disgusting. But they go like stink dont they?

They are a bit hard on the eyes aren't they, mind you atleast BMW has looked coupe up in the dictionary this time. Pity they didn't tell the person who designed the 3 series 2 door.

:drool: my neighbour has it's predecessor.... a car I'd give my eye teeth to drive

http://www.368s.com/photos/photo001236_medium.jpg


Well the new Z4/M Coupe looks way better. The Kamm-back/Kamm tail on the Z4/M Coupe is actually quite sexy as opposed to the clumsy, and from some angles, quite ugly predecesor who looked more like a hatchback than a coupe.

Well, the M Coupe:

http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/742bfe98ab.jpg
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/6d98bc2886.jpg


eugghh someone swat that fly!






Not all its cracked up to be from the reviews i read

Yep i had one-that's how i know there not all there cracked up to be;)

ah so you were once a mug for the brand too then? what did you buy it for in the first place? i mean surely you took it for a test drive and realised it isnt what you were after?!

just thought, you had one so they all must be bad? is that not mega double standards?! :lol:

ah so you were once a mug for the brand too then? what did you buy it for in the first place? i mean surely you took it for a test drive and realised it isnt what you were after?!

just thought, you had one so they all must be bad? is that not mega double standards?! :lol:

Woo Hoo! If there was ever a beyatch slap of justice, then there it is!

Well the new Z4/M Coupe looks way better. The Kamm-back/Kamm tail on the Z4/M Coupe is actually quite sexy as opposed to the clumsy, and from some angles, quite ugly predecesor who looked more like a hatchback than a coupe.

Didn't say either was one or the other did I? Just said I'd give my eye teeth for a go in it. Stylings a love hate affair IYAM. I'm not arguing about it.

Woo Hoo! If there was ever a beyatch slap of justice, then there it is!

slap of justice duly taken:O :lol:

slap of justice duly taken:O :lol:

On the chin like a proper man too. I was half expecting a "yeah but no but yeah but no but aliens abuducted me and made me do wierd things n stuff n they made me buy a beemer but i as young and silly and then my best mate trixie bell said i should get a rover instead so i did n like it was like so much better so like i kept it and its lke the best car ever ever ever. Innit".

slap of justice duly taken:O :lol:

it wasnt a nasty slap i prowmise! :minxy:

more of a aaaaahhhh haaaa got you there type of slap! :lol:

the m coupe is lush, but i bet it looks pants in any other colour than black....in black it makes it look like a batman car....its not going to really work in that minty green/blue they do is it?!

the m coupe is lush, but i bet it looks pants in any other colour than black....in black it makes it look like a batman car....its not going to really work in that minty green/blue they do is it?!

The Grey Colour is lovely too. On that note, I might just sell my soul for this......

http://www.rs6.com/gallery/data/511/2AC-Schnitzer--Z4-C30-1.jpg

it wasnt a nasty slap i prowmise! :minxy:

more of a aaaaahhhh haaaa got you there type of slap! :lol:

the m coupe is lush, but i bet it looks pants in any other colour than black....in black it makes it look like a batman car....its not going to really work in that minty green/blue they do is it?!

to be honest thinking back now i used to give it a bit of the 'look at me i'm in a beemer'

I was the type of person i rant and moan about now:eek:

A wee while ago someone i knew had an m power z3 not sure what engines in them but it went like dogs poo off a stick-MEGA hairdressers car though.

Now have i told you what i think about the 1 series or x3.......;)

The BMW M1 Procar
http://www.germancarfans.com/classics/5040902.001/5040902.001.1M.jpg

A wee while ago someone i knew had an m power z3 not sure what engines in them but it went like dogs poo off a stick-MEGA hairdressers car though.

3.2 Vanos straight six 321bhp. Enough power to spin the wheels on a dry road in third :omg2: Same as neighbours Z3 coupe (see above). NOT for the faint hearted hairdresser!

3.2 Vanos straight six 321bhp. Enough power to spin the wheels on a dry road in third :omg2: Same as neighbours Z3 coupe (see above). NOT for the faint hearted hairdresser!

JESUS:bigeyes:

It sure felt quick with the roof down!

The Grey Colour is lovely too. On that note, I might just sell my soul for this......

http://www.rs6.com/gallery/data/511/2AC-Schnitzer--Z4-C30-1.jpg

I might have to consign this thread to the bin if any more horrors like that are posted, that is trully ghastly!

I might have to consign this thread to the bin if any more horrors like that are posted, that is trully ghastly!

:lol: quick, let me put an MG badge on it! :lol:

So it's double standards to hold a poor opinion of an almighty BMW by your reckoning then?


not at all....where did i say that?

read post 192 - and stop twisting my words and taking them out of context

something ive duly noticed, is when you say you like a bmw most people on here tar you with the 'i love bmw brush, therefore i musten be a mgr fan', when more often than not the people that are saying it have no idea about you or what you have or have not driven/owned

not a rant, just a tongue in cheek post ;) :lol: and back on thread topic, my fav bmw is that m coupe closely follwed by the z4....i love both but wouldnt say no to any m car!

Hand on heart, I have a rover, and it really does suck for build quality.

My own fault though, I bought a car based on two metro's, so I'm bound to get double the problems aren't I :lol:

Still wouldn't swap it for anything else in the price bracket though.

Is it double standards to love something that I swear at so much? Nope, I'm married after all :lol:

Exposing the evil MG-R.org members' double standards seems to be a full time job for you at the moment. ;)

someones gotta do it, or else youd all have nowt to talk about ;)


I think people need to realise that BMW, in the UK at least, has a vulgar image to some people, and as Rover found out, that can be a beggar. Whilst I respect the opnions of the people on this site who like BMWs, I think they should equally respect those with the dislike, that's all I'm saying.

i respect anyones opinion about anything, but when someone tells me in one thread (in not so many words) they hate bmw etc etc then in another they say they owned one, then say they think they are all crap because they had one.....is that not double standards?

ive never disrespected any ones opinions here or in any other thread - im just not sure you read both threads before trying to jump down my neck....

surely you can see my point there? i mean isnt it when people went oh my dad had a rover and it blew up, what caused the problem here in the first place? just because hes dads did doesnt mean they all will does it?

moving on cos i dont want this stuff on the forum, especially not in this thread as it makes it mega off topic

some........a off topic

I could agree with Liam if it was "I owned a BMW, but never again because.....it broke, it fell to bits or it smealt of wee". But there was total BMW bashing against the brand, not the car.

Still, I think I've crawled far enough up your backside for now :lol:

Back on course, do Hartge and Alpina count as BMW's?

Of course! That's why that 'My Favourite BMW' thread is now locked and deleted and members like DarkOne and Atmos have been banned.

That view, in actual fact, is in a distinct minority Dee, and even so, who are we to judge if that's the view they have, freedom of choice an all.

Final point, you seem to have taken this personal, not intentional.

Anyway, to go back on topic, whilst I'm not BMWs greatest fan, I do admire a lot of their older cars, like the E30 and E28, especially the M-powered versions. I'd love to drive an E34 as well, I love them.

the threads still open? and what makes you think they were banned for that reason?! it could of been anything?

my view, wether or not it is the minority is still my view, ive never judged anyone on this or any other thread. tbh i dont care what car anyone drives, it makes no difference to me. i was just pointing our a double standard - nothing more or nothing less!

i took it personal because you quoted my post, im bound to defend my actions!

general bmw bashing for no other reason than bashing that im against. its no different to general rover bashing. its not because i love bmws its because id like to think that we should play fair. the most ironic bit is is that im not generally a bmw fan, i like a couple of their cars...as i do other manufacturers. theres no rose tinted glasses anywhere near me, i speak as i find

i dont really know any of bmws older cars....im not really sure i got interested in cars til slightly later on in life....although any m car deserves respect imo

:lol:

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, I should've known better...

Cap'n, I see no sarcasm? Just correction of an error. The post be alive, not dead.

I could agree with Liam if it was "I owned a BMW, but never again because.....it broke, it fell to bits or it smealt of wee". But there was total BMW bashing against the brand, not the car.

Still, I think I've crawled far enough up your backside for now :lol:

Back on course, do Hartge and Alpina count as BMW's?

I'm actually mellowing on the subject now-yeah i've had double standards and i'll take my slapping like a man:twak2:

I've owned a bm and fair play to those who like them now-each to their own

As i look down on someone in a 116 from the best 4x4 by far i think to myself - 'have you seen the devolepment photos of the rdx60;) '

Anyway back on thread my fave bm would have to be a nice mint 635csi-a lovely grand tourer with a sweet sounding engine.

There you go even a 'blinkered' guy like me can actually like a bm!