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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 25-01-2012, 13:06 Thread Starter
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VOSA, The MOT and Decats...

All,

I emailed VOSA to clarify the decat situation regarding diesels and here's the response:

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Dear Mr Coles,

Thank you for your email enquiry dated 22nd January 2012, concerning MOT
tests.

The check for a CAT only applies to petrol engined vehicles which qualify
for a full CAT test. There will be an update to the Inspection Manual in
Spring which will clarify this.

I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards

Rebecca
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VOSA Operations Directorate
Tel: 0300 123 9000

The staff at the VOSA Contact Centre are keen to hear your feedback on the
service that they provide for you,to enable them to further understand
customer requirements and make improvements where possible. Please take a
few moments to complete our Contact Centre Customer Feedback form by
clicking here

VERY GOOD NEWS !!!
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That makes my spare decat pipe with gaskets n fasteners worth a bit more then!

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Excellent news, I don't have to faff about removing my 5 year old decat then!
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i have a gutted cat on my car, would it be better to get a proper de-cat pipe now ?
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Nice one, rep points going your way Deano! Would this be good to have as a sticky admins? As I'm sure a lot of people will be asking this question over the next few months.
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All,

I emailed VOSA to clarify the decat situation regarding diesels and here's the response:




VERY GOOD NEWS !!!
Ahhhh. You beat me to getting a reply from VOSA on the exact same question. Never mind the news is good. Will confirm they tell me the same thing as soon as poss. Maybe the e-mail could be forwarded to members with decats so they can present them at the time of their MOT's
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well done deano for ascertaining that information. Now everyone can tell the pedantic MOT testers to *******.



I hope this does get stickied so should this:

DO NOT GUT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS THEY ARE WORTH MONEY.


rep points will be added when I can do it!
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Good news, the only thing that could be a problem now is if VOSA start wondering why people are asking the question in the first place, and then come up with a new strict regulation for diesels.

And I wouldn't worry too much about pedantic MOT testers, all the info they need is on their computer, just simply tell them to check it if they have a problem.
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Diesels don't have CATALYTIC CONVERTERS for some reason people call them that.
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YES THEY DO.

They have a catalytic convertor. Our diesels don't have a DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) which some modern diesels do though.
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^^^ Absolutely. A simple oxidation catalyst, fitted mainly to get rid of the smell in the diesel exhaust.
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As promised i said i would verify what Deano had already told us not saying he was giving false info but as stated in one of my posts he beat me to the reply. Got mine today and here is it.

Dear Mr Coombes,

Thank you for your email enquiry dated 25th January 2012, concerning an
MOT.

The check for a CAT only applies to petrol engined vehicles which qualify
for a full CAT test. There will be an update to the Inspection Manual in
Spring which will clarify this.

I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards

Rebecca

Maybe we should all send Rebecca our undying love LOL
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And there was me thinking i must find where i put my cat,I think i know where it is but its hard to get to,Now i dont have to worry.
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Just as added confirmation, had my MOT today, took my email printed out with me and the CAT hidden in the boot (just in case). Explained I had a de-cat on and showed the tester the email (didn't tell him I had the CAT with me as wanted an honest answer from him just from the email and my de-cat).


And the result was a complete PASS !!!

He even asked to photocopy my email because he gets the question a fair few times, so he's now happy he can legally pass diesels without a CAT fitted.
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This is excellent news for us all, as i was dreading the MOT due to the uncertainty of the rules.

I was half expecting to need to source a cat to fit to the car, glad i don't need to go to that expense now.

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AMAZING!! news saved us all a lot of time and hassle!
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Will save alot of people the hassle and expense.

I believe that a cat test will come in for diesel cars, but only those that are manufactured after the new rule is passed.


So even if that does come in, we've nothing to worry about
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Presumably you will still need to tell your insurance company as it is a modification. Do they tend to consider it a performance enhancing mod. and jack up premiums?

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Even if VOSA do retrospectively invoke a catalyst check, this would probably not apply before 2004MY vehicles, in a similar way that it doesn't apply to the type-approval check on Petrols prior to 2001MY. My reasoning is that the 2001 threshold for Petrols aligns with the OBD emissions requirements, and these did not, and could not, apply before 2004 for Diesels. So it is likely that most Rovers/Landrovers would be exempt from type-approval checks on catalysts, therefore anything resembling a Diesel catalyst would suffice in the exhaust system.

For most of us, this means "Don't panic", ever.
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Presumably you will still need to tell your insurance company as it is a modification. Do they tend to consider it a performance enhancing mod. and jack up premiums?

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As with any modification - you need to tell them! You would get away with gutting your existing cat though as it wouldn't look any different...

Doesn't have to cost more, my modified policy with Adrian Flux costs less than insuring a standard ZR, a LOT less.
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