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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-03-2007, 13:52 Thread Starter
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As always, DO NOT ATTEMPT this work if you are not competant with the spanners.

Anyway, here goes....a brief how to.....

Take wheel off....



Beat the screws which hold the disc to the hub - this loosens their grip, allowing removal.



Undo screws x 2 using a large cross-head screwdriver and store safely!



Slacken brake pipe union just enough to allow removal with the caliper off the car...



Undo two 15mm headed bolts that secure the caliper to the carrier



Prise the pads apart to allow caliper to be drawn off the disc



With a large hammer, beat the old disc off the hub - these can often be very corroded. Wear goggles to protect your eyes.



Remove brake disc



Clean both hub and mounting surface before fitting new disc, this is important if you are to avoid brake judder in the future



Fit disc, insert and tighten two screws.



Make sure you have the correct caliper - they are sided. Make sure the pads are fully pushed apart.



Fit the caliper, torquing the bolts up.



Clean the mating surface of the hydraulic connection....



Fit the hydraulic connection - do not overtighten! Use new copper seals.



Bleed brakes!



Fit wheel back on.......using a torque wrench, no air tools!



The finished job.......looks nice!



and one happy Curgy!

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Wish i'd seen this before doing mine....my calipers are upside down!

Curgy......may i recommend some pies
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Wish i'd seen this before doing mine....my calipers are upside down!
Are you serious? How did you bleed them??
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Are you serious? How did you bleed them??
Took hours and 3L of fluid, believe me - but i DID bleed them. Gonna swap them round as soon as i get the car back......
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It's a shame you didn't clean up those rusty old disc's.
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why? The journey home would have cleaned them a treat!

It was minor surface corrosion because the day curgy got them (A year ago tomorrow) it was peeing it down.... I can assure you those discs had never been used in anger before they were fitted to his car.
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why? The journey home would have cleaned them a treat!

It was minor surface corrosion because the day curgy got them (A year ago tomorrow) it was peeing it down.... I can assure you those discs had never been used in anger before they were fitted to his car.
Was it really a year ago tomorrow And they're still lovely and clean now!
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Was it really a year ago tomorrow And they're still lovely and clean now!
Was it really? Blimey, so it was!! Where has that year gone, eh??
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heh, just how many of these F/TF AP brake conversions have you done now Dave?!

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I prefer to use an impact screwdriver to remove the small disk locating screws and if available I replace them.

The arrow indicates the normal rotation direction, which is more obvious than pointing the arrow upwards iin whatever location/position the caliper is.

I prefer to use axle stands and(/or) put the wheel under the sill.... if something goes wrong, there's always the wheel.
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Was it really? Blimey, so it was!! Where has that year gone, eh??
have a 1999 mgf find de brake very slow n reacting new pads on b4 i bought altho it passed the mot i still feel it could be alot sharper what would i need to do or gat to improve them??
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this brakes could be used in a mg zr or a rover 25?
direct plug&play?
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So do you install 304mm discs to go with the AP calipers? I have the calipers and pads but not bought any copper seals or discs yet

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Well now, I reckon I could do this job after seeing this how to.
Thanks for taking the time.
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Clean and derust brake discs ,it could be the difference in stopping in time or not,all that rust is now imbedded in the brake pads,bad practice in my book but this is the internet full of expertise
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In a moment of madness, I have purchased an 04 1.6 Spark SE. The saving grace is that it cost me a piddling sum of money.
It has been fitted with uprated AP brakes (red calipers), discs and 16 inch 11 spoke wheels.

We now have a Steptronic F and a Manual TF. I'm considering swapping the larger brakes to my wife's X plate MGF which has 15 inch wheels with standard size discs.

Will the 15 inch wheels accommodate the larger discs?

If they do, apart from swapping the discs/calipers, will it be necessary to swap any of the other 'bits' on the hub if I keep the wheels on the original cars?

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The 4 pot AP brakes require 16" wheels and in general the only commonly available 16" that will fit without the use of spacers are the 11 spoke type. Other then that other than the discs and callipers and I think possibly the hoses are all that is needed,
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Thanks.

The new purchase doesn't have an MOT, but otherwise seems in decent order. It wouldn't engage a gear at first but did so after some persuasion. It then ran well enough, albeit with stiff gears, over a very short distance. It has been sold to me at an unbelievably low price, giving the impression that there might be something seriously wrong with the car (does the gear change issue indicate major problem, or just a sticky mechanism).

If I end up with no alternative other than scrapping it, are the 15" and 16" wheels interchangeable on the smaller discs without affecting the breaking or handling capability?

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