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How Do I... Fit an Engine Push-Button Start???

First-off I'd like to point out that the process which I've detailed below will work on all MG-Rovers, not just Bubble derivatives, however I'm not sure how the wiring-colour etc. varies from car to car. If in doubt, check your manual

This is, in my opinion, one of the best modifications that you can do to your car, as it creates a real talking point, whether it be passengers or at shows etc., plus it won't cost you more than 2 and 30 minutes of your time to have it up and running!! It is pretty pointless other than for giving the car that extra "cool" factor... but isn't that what car modification is all about?

There are two ways to wire this in, both of which you will still need the key in the ignition for it to work. I have outlined below what is in my opinion the better of the two ways, where you will no longer be able to start the car with just the key... you will quickly develop the habit of using the button this way, plus it's funny watching people trying, and failing, to turn your car on

Once the button is fitted you will have to start the car by turning the key to position 2, then pushing the button, which in effect works by replacing key position 3. Turning the key to position 3 will now do absolutely nothing at all.


What you will need:

*A nice button! A wide selection are available from Maplins for less than 2. I would, however, suggest getting a decent-sized one so that it doesn't overheat.

*Something to strip/cut wires with (e.g. wire strippers, stanley knife).

*Wiring connection kit, or at worst some electrical tape.

*Philips screwdriver.

*Some half-decent cable, length is dependent entirely on button location.


What to do:

1) Disconnect battery!!!

2) Remove in-car fusebox cover.

3) Remove steering wheel surround - 3 screws on the underside and it'll just pull off.

4) Remove the big brown plug that is plugged-in next to the ignition barrel, and locate the red/white and purple/brown wires which SHOULD be next to each other on the back of the plug!

5) Cut red/white wire and run to one terminal on the button. You will probably need to extend this wire in order for it to reach the desired button position.
*EDIT* If you wish to still be able to turn the car on using only the key when the button has been fitted, simply strip a section of the red/white wire instead of cutting it, and run it to the button that way.

6) Strip a section of the purple/brown wire, but DO NOT CUT IT, and run a second cable from it to the second terminal on the button.

7) Make sure the connections are all properly insulated, or you could end up blowing a fuse like I have done countless times!!!

8) Make sure the button is secured properly!!! Depending on where it is located you will have to drill a hole for it to slot into.

9) Push the brown plug back in (I forgot to do this about ten times and wondered why the car wouldn't start )

10) Reconnect the battery.

11) Insert they key into the ignition, turn to position 2, and push your button for the same length of time that you would've held the key at position 3, i.e. just enough to fire the car up.

If the car starts, then job done! If not, check all your connections are secure and insulated properly, then try again! If still nothing, then I'm afraid you're in trouble!!!!!!!!! Nah, if it still doesn't work, check all your fuses, and reconnect the red/white wire and try again with the key. Remember: when it comes to wiring, if it can be done, it can be undone, so don't worry about cutting stuff as it can always be reattached

*EDIT* If you have an illuminated button, a wiring guide can be found HERE.


Here's a few pictures to give you ideas on where to mount the button:


My Mk1 ZR - I drilled a hole next to the ignition barrel and fitted it there (well, Si actually did this one for me! )



*EDIT* I now have mine where the cigarette lighter was:



Hollie's Mk1 ZR - I fitted this in one of the spare panels that just prise off... handy if you don't want to drill a hole in the car:




Ross' Mk2 ZR - I routed extra cable along to the gap left after we had removed his cigarette lighter... the larger button sizes fit PERFECTLY!




YoungY's Mk1 ZR - Again we removed his cigarette lighter and fitted the button to the resulting gap... my personal favourite mounting point





SuZy's Mk1 ZR - Same positioning as YoungY's:





Si's Bubble Turbo - The man who I got my inspiration from, he's mounted his on the heater panel between the two sliders:

*IMAGE NO LONGER AVAILABLE DUE TO SI'S DODGY PHOTOBUCKETAGE!!!*


Any questions or queries, ask below and I'll update this post as we go along

Stuarty



*EDIT* For information on installing a button on earlier Rovers, please see HERE.

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Looking good there Stuarty.
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V. good Stuarty

Now I wonder whether they'll do those switches in real wood veneer lol
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excellent! im just going to spend the rest of time finding the best place to mount it. hollies looks a much easier fit, might try that.
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Only joking, well done mate, lots of top notch work!!!

I like Si's button!!!
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excellent! im just going to spend the rest of time finding the best place to mount it. hollies looks a much easier fit, might try that.
Easiest place is the hole left by the cigarette lighter TBH mate, only place that requires no drilling as the larger buttons just slot right in
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Thanks for the compliments people

Just goes to show there's more to me than an abundance of warning-worthy material
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Thanks for the compliments people

Just goes to show there's more to me than an abundance of warning-worthy material
We never doubted it.
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I did!!!

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I did!!!

The times Ive found myself saying 'TJ will never post a decent thread...'
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After fitting a push button start, can you still start the car with the key? Do you also turn the keys on up until the lights on the dash come on before it will start on the switch?
Thick I know but you never learn without asking!!!!!!!!!!!!

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After fitting a push button start, can you still start the car with the key? Do you also turn the keys on up until the lights on the dash come on before it will start on the switch?Thick I know but you never learn without asking!!!!!!!!!!!! Steve
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Once the button is fitted you will have to start the car by turning the key to position 2, then pushing the button, which in effect works by replacing key position 3. Turning the key to position 3 will now do absolutely nothing at all.

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ahh you showed loads of pictures except my start button

im all upset now!
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Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That will learn me to read properly!!!!!

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ahh you showed loads of pictures except my start button

im all upset now!
Did I fit yours...???
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Which of the wires control the ignition lights?

I'm still toying about using a starter button and a switch for the ignition lights
like this one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AWESOME-IGNITI...QQcmdZViewItem

I would supply my own switches tho.

Just need to know how to wire this thing up!!!

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u didnt fit it know - but it looks as if u did its that gd!
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just ordered me one of these in Silver -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rage-SLR-Alumi...QQcmdZViewItem

needed a new gear knob anyway as the rover one fell off ,then i thought about getting a push button starter and saw this

TJ. nice usefull information btw

hope it comes for saturday
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hahaha i saw them, think the actual gear knob bit is massive tho, could b tasty tho.
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