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post #21 of 67 (permalink) Old 08-10-2005, 18:18 Thread Starter
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Difficult to adapt to the -95 200/400, the window switches are wired differently.......
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I think he means to stop it when it gets to the bottom....

I think that's already part of the install, because if you hold the button the motor stops. I think the motor has the stop built in...
Ah right, thought theyre was a seperate switch that cut the motor once it had arrived at the bottom. How come theyre is nothing that stops it at the top then lol
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There is a down limit switch built into the motor assembly.

There is no up limit switch in the Mk3 motor, unsure about others. Also there is no safety detect on the Mk3 motor...it will continue to drive if something is in the way.

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I've fitted a second set of window switches to the passenger side of my Rover 75.

A set of driver's side switches will fit in the passenger side door but will not work if just plugged in.

The position of all 9 window switches (up and down on 4 windows plus lock out of rear windows) is signalled down one wire from the driver's door switches to the body ECU. I worked out the signalling system and I built a circuit with a microcontroller on it. The microcontroller is programmed to read in the signal from both sets of window switches (original and new passenger side set) and it produces a combined signal that looks to the body ECU as though it came from the driver's door.

I didn't need to run any more wires from the passenger door as there are already 4 wires to there. The illumination of the new switches works. The mirror switches on the passenger side do nothing. The rear window lock out is controlled from just the driver's side.

The circuit that I built is under the glovebox and it only has 5 connections:-
1: Input from driver's door
2: Input from passenger door
3: Output to ECU
4: Power (switched by the ignition)
5: Ground

Connections 1 and 3 were the same until I came along. The old connections to the ECU from the front passenger door are not connected to anything.

In the signalling system, there is a signal which says that a switch has been pressed only briefly. The ECU is programmed for one-touch downwards on all windows and upwards on the driver's door window.

There is no reason why a circuit like mine couldn't be made to do the one touch bit itself, by faking the up signal for a few seconds on any window if the switch is pressed briefly. There would be no cut out other than what is fited already, but leaving the switch pressed doesn't seem to do any damage.

If anyone wants any more details, please contact me. I'll send what info I can for free, but if anyone wants any circuits made up, I'll want paying.

I hope my first post is of use to someone.
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One-touch window lowering...

Can I add a word of warning? My 75 has all windows operatingf on a 1-touch lower. It is very easy, when leaving the car, to acidentally hit the rear drivers side switch. Being 1-touch, it lowers all the way, and can be easy to miss. I have come back to the car and found it open all the way!
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Spinner - maybe you should buy one of these, they fit all cars:-


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Windo...QQcmdZViewItem
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Great tutorial Paul, hopefully get the passengers' side converted to 'one touch up' when I have some free time
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Would this work on a 25??
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They are made to operate almost all electric window configurations, the 25/45/ZR/ZS wiring is pretty standard, so yes it would.
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one touch tale.

TBH I wouldn't bother converting to one-touch down.

I used to regularily use the 'one touch' feature on my R8 214 GSI, until one day one of the plastic 'glass grips' decided to detach itself when half-way down!
The window tilted sideways and was about to crunch, and would have done so if I had not reacted quickly and gripped the glass.
Luckily I was able to hold the glass tight enough to prevent a disaster and by the time the window was down to the bottom the other grip had broken too.

I was at a friends house at the time, so we removed the door card- straightened the bent scissor mechanism and managed to wedge the glass in place for my journey home, with a block of wood!
After this episode, and repair, I never used one touch again, Imagine the same happening on the near side window, when driving alone!
The glass would almost certainly break.
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Spinner - maybe you should buy one of these, they fit all cars:-


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Windo...QQcmdZViewItem
I don't have remote central locking on my coupe, just central locking/alarm via the key, its only a 1993 model, will this product still work you reckon?
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Yep, you should be able to wire it so it is triggered by the drivers lock mechanism switch.
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pretty sure it will work using the pulse from the lock wire on the solenoid so yeah it should
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cool I get fed up of turning engine off and window is still down
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May have to put on in the new year when i have time of work.
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well i have one touch down on the drivers side as std, now me new alarm has total closure so that sorts the closing, now to do this to the passenger side tomorrow
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Spinner - maybe you should buy one of these, they fit all cars:-


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Has anyone fitted one of these? Was wondering how easy it is and how good the instructions are that come with it
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well i have one touch down on the drivers side as std, now me new alarm has total closure so that sorts the closing, now to do this to the passenger side tomorrow
How you get total closure??
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How you get total closure??
The alarm closes the window for you mate just in case you forget (actually it's really just so you look like a right flash git!)

I've had that word document saved for months... I've already got and ECU, just never got round to sourcing the 2 connectors and wiring.
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guess i should have said really, i fitted one touch down to me pass window but it knocked off me total closure and poped a fuse, guess it's how the alarm is wired in so i removed it and left be
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