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Autocar MG3 Review

Shame they could not have waited for the UK spec being launched http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...-review?page=1
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Overall its a positive review I feel and there is potential there. They just need to put the effort in for the final push! It annoys me how most of the comments on the car are "It can't compete over here"... No, that's because its the Chinese spec you fools!
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Nice to see that not only have MG copied Mazda on the model names but also copied them on their trim level names aswell now.
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Nice to see that not only have MG copied Mazda on the model names but also copied them on their trim level names aswell now.
The 6 looks a bit like a Mazda from the rear too
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Just a waste of space of an article. They know this is not the car to go on sale in the UK, why bother testing the chinese car again, when they've had two years to do it.

It tells us nothing, and whilst this is largely down to MG's still prevelant lack of marketing, it still does not excuse them publishing an article that provides no new or relevant information.
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Just a waste of space of an article. They know this is not the car to go on sale in the UK, why bother testing the chinese car again, when they've had two years to do it.

It tells us nothing, and whilst this is largely down to MG's still prevelant lack of marketing, it still does not excuse them publishing an article that provides no new or relevant information.

^ This
Its a complete non article, they really would of been better not bothering. the important things that will be relevant to the sales over here are unknown and until MG UK launch it over here and have some press cars or some preview info everything is speculation.
If anything testing the short comings of the Chinese car does do them no favours at all.
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Just a waste of space of an article. They know this is not the car to go on sale in the UK, why bother testing the chinese car again, when they've had two years to do it.

It tells us nothing, and whilst this is largely down to MG's still prevelant lack of marketing, it still does not excuse them publishing an article that provides no new or relevant information.
Tbh MG \ SAIC are the ones at fault for half releasing a car but leaving out the important detail. People now know (through the Sun article etc) there is an MG3 coming but when they go to find out more about the interior, engines, pricing, availability... nothing. Missed opportunity as it appears the press want to write about the car but there's only so much you can say about some LEDs in the bumper and FUN.

If revealing part of the car was a deliberate marketing strategy it's another stupid one by MG imo and leads to articles like the one above that can only focus on the shortcomings of the Chinese spec. Also makes it look like the car is either a) unfinished or b) MG are trying to hide something, certainly doesn't seem to be building excitement as some have suggested.

Why not get a fleet of pre-release MG3 Euro spec cars out to the press to start building some interest? Or will it be a case of getting to launch day and the company crying about lack of sales (again)

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Tbh MG \ SAIC are the ones at fault for half releasing a car but leaving out the important detail. People now know (through the Sun article etc) there is an MG3 coming but when they go to find out more about the interior, engines, pricing, availability... nothing. Missed opportunity as it appears the press want to write about the car but there's only so much you can say about some LEDs in the bumper and FUN.

If revealing part of the car was a deliberate marketing strategy it's another stupid one by MG imo and leads to articles like the one above that can only focus on the shortcomings of the Chinese spec. Also makes it look like the car is either a) unfinished or b) MG are trying to hide something, certainly doesn't seem to be building excitement as some have suggested.

Why not get a fleet of pre-release MG3 Euro spec cars out to the press to start building some interest? Or will it be a case of getting to launch day and the company crying about lack of sales (again)
Oh I do agree that SAIC/MG are partly to blame, for example, I went onto www.mg.co.uk today and the "live chat" box popped up, so I thought, why not! Asked for more details about the MG3 - after an age of waiting, reply was "Sorry, no further details or interior pictures are available for the MG3, it will be available in dealers late summer"

So even a one-on-one conversation and they seem hardly bothered? How on earth can they NOT have more information unless it's going to be that pathetic when it does arrive that they haven't yet found a supplier of cheap peel-off decals for the personalisation options...

I do still think that Autocar could have waited though. Having said all of that, most car reviews of a car already available in other markets will test those before they can get hold of a UK spec one - just a shame then that they seem happy to let the poor chinese buyer have shoddy variants!
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Also makes it look like the car is either a) unfinished or b) MG are trying to hide something, certainly doesn't seem to be building excitement as some have suggested.
Agree, it certainly tends to suggest the former, that it is not yet even decided, surely if the car is to be in showrooms late summer (August/September) in the UK, then some cars should already be being loaded onto ships?

As for b) well who knows, the pictures used on the website could be a lot better, the frontal one makes it look like a washing machine. FUN, FUN, FUN is all the advert says but it certainly makes no effort to back that assertion up.

The mind boggles as to how THEY think they are handling all of this, they cannot be that blinkered can they? and why they havent considered an online pre-order option like Dacia is anyones guess, I just don't get that at all- Dacia clearly recognised that being a new brand they might need an easy way into purchasing a car, despite having access to a large dealer network, MG have no such network but still they don't seize the opportunity.
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Nice to see that not only have MG copied Mazda on the model names but also copied them on their trim level names aswell now.


Well in that case MAZDA are guilty of stealing them names from RENAULT.







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Yea but atleast those cars were out in the 70's/80's

The MG3 TS will be out at the same time as the Mazda 3 TS.
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If we put to one side the poorly thought out SAIC/MG marketing "reveal" which has generated interest, but dissappointed with detail and look at the article in isolation, I think those knocking it are being pretty harsh.

The Chinese version is obviously about for the journos to drive (already reported on in the Sun) so Autocar are no different form elsewhere in that respect. Where they do appear to be different is in the honesty of the reporting. Right up front they state the UK version will be different and the key areas where:
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since the car was unveiled at the recent Shanghai motor show without a visible interior in order to build anticipation.

As a result, we tested a Chinese spec car, powered by a version of the 1.5-litre petrol engine that will reach the UK, but in a different state of tune. Likewise, UK cars will get bespoke steering and suspension set-ups, honed during the car’s time under development in the UK.
Then for the most part it is a stream of positives for the coming car
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The overall impression is of a car with potential...

The driving position is good...

...the cabin roomy.

The seats are reasonably supportive, and the rear space generous for the class, as is the boot space.

The dash and steering wheel do not feel cheap..

On the move the engine is refined at low revs...

The performance is perky if not earth shattering...

The five-speed gearbox is well-spaced, too, and the shift action decent. The test track’s two turns, both second gear sweepers, suggested that there was plenty of grip and little roll.

Overall stability was decent...

Braking hard from around 70mph to 30mph suggested decent stopping power and good feel – a progression from when we first tested a Chinese-spec MG 3 around 18 months ago

In all likelihood the engine and chassis dynamics will look adequate against the opposition, with the key differentiator being how successful those personalisation options are, and how well priced the car is against its rivals

MG could have a minor success story on its hands
where it mentions negatives these are generally qualified as being the Chinese version therefore hinting the European version will be better.

So in short it has informed those who perhaps are not on forums like this that
1) the Chinese MG3 is not a bad car
2) the European MG3 will be better
3) Buyers should consider this car when it becomes avaialble.

Which I think is a good thing
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However the words adequate, reasonable and decent don't exactly excite potential buyers when there's so much competition which the article is basically alluding to. Shame MG seem to be hiding the one thing that will make or break the car (personalisation)
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However the words adequate, reasonable and decent don't exactly excite potential buyers when there's so much competition which the article is basically alluding to. Shame MG seem to be hiding the one thing that will make or break the car (personalisation)

I don't know, skoda seem to of done plenty well with adequate.

As long as adequate, reasonable and decent are attatched to a cheep decent price point it could sell well.

thats where i worry a bit though. I'm still not 100% sure where the mg3 fits in the segments, but 10-16k isn't cheep, especially with its choice of engines.
The fiesta is in that range, but with a choice of many different engines, and more importantly, a reputation to go with it.
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However the words adequate, reasonable and decent don't exactly excite potential buyers when there's so much competition which the article is basically alluding to. Shame MG seem to be hiding the one thing that will make or break the car (personalisation)
Autocar aren't usually flush with praise, so the wording is comparable to some others.
Hrere are some snippets from Autocars MINI Mk2 review

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Load area is slightly bigger than old carís, but itís still pretty feeble compared with the best superminis

The Mini is a satisfyingly brisk machine in nearly all its forms

That zestiness that you expect of the re-invented BMW Mini is still present

It changes direction keenly, despite a dose of initial body roll,

Basic car seems okay, but add options and it becomes a very expensive, impractical supermini

every time you drive a new Mini, itís hard to shake off the feeling that it has lost something in transition

Perhaps this car is just too logically executed, too much a lab-grown product tended by men in white coats with clipboards.

Style, branding and individuality are now all that stand between this tiny machine and more practical Golf-class cars Ė no longer does any new Mini bristle with dynamic character.
And this is a car they really like
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Fair enough, seems like the automotive equivalent of Which? magazine, they're never satisfied
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Yea but atleast those cars were out in the 70's/80's

The MG3 TS will be out at the same time as the Mazda 3 TS.

Calm down dear.

I'm sure the car buying public will be able to tell them apart, thats if they give a toss.
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Calm down dear.

I'm sure the car buying public will be able to tell them apart, thats if they give a toss.
Nothing to do with the public. I was just referring to the fact MG can't seam to think for themselves and just appear to browse a Mazda sales brochure for idea's.
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Anyone know what the TS stands for?

It will be the TS1,2 and 3 anyway.

There have also been alot of GTI trims by a lot of manufacturers.
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anyone know what the ts stands for?
totally sick!
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