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post #1 of 222 (permalink) Old 18-04-2012, 11:49 Thread Starter
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DJ Wilmas Elise 111S S2 K series 1.6 Turbo

As you all know i sold the engine in the Metro to another metro owner, build thread is on Metropower, so he can be the first to be over 300bhp and with the cash i told my pregnant wife we needed a new family car so i bought this 2005 Cat C Elise 111S the last of the k series powered cars (160bhp on lotus management)

As for the 1.4, people seem to be disappointed that i only got 292.8bhp with the engine, not i, the only reason i sold the car was to buy an elise as the metro was fun.....but it wasnt designed to go over 100mph and go round corners. Also for the record when we split the car the intercooler was split, so it should of been quicker and thats why i was having low down power issues.



I am hoping to build it on a budget less than the price of a straight low mileage 111S after using the knowledge from the metro

Needs a little work and its with the infamous Cheeky Scott we will get it put back together and re-sprayed black.

There is no chassis damage just front and rear clams and a few minors repairs

Plan is to get the car back on the road with the std engine, whilst building the turbo block

I thought long and hard about what engine to use, i was tempted by the VAG and T series but ultimately for me they are too heavy with the S2 already being over 800kgs. Honda just doesnt appeal to me (sorry Munday) and i have asked drew at Roverdose to build the engine.....

Engine spec will be as follows

DKE 79.4mm Forged Crank
Wossner Pistons 80mm (but i have some 82mm so we will see)
Wossner custom Rods
VVC Head, ported and polished 32.4mm inlets 28.5mm exhaust
Paul Ivey Valves, double springs, caps and solid followers
Cams 270M Exhaust 285M inlet (may go custom or Newman PH2 will see)
Custom Equal Length 1 7/8" Exhaust Manifold T25 flange
GTX2860 turbo
Siemans 660cc injectors
AP Racing 220 Turbo clutch (good for 300lbft)
W4 Uprated PG1 steel caged with Quaife Diff
Charge cooled (more likely a custom Pro Alloy)
Vibratechnics uprated engine gearbox mounts
DTA Pro S80 with traction and launch control

Going to go for 350bhp + will be happy with 300bhp but we will see what happens

Suspension and Brakes will be uprated to suit, yet to decide but we will see

Front damage, its missing the front crash structure, now bonded on



Front damage, its behind the clam so not an issue



Driver doors, need some repairs



DKE Crank, of unknown origin...79.4 stroke (we hope)



82mm forged pistons



after a day at cheeky scotts







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Little bit jealous tbh, fancy a straight swap for a metro
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Sweet as you like buddy
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Personally, I don't like the er, er, there MUST BE something, What a beauty!!
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I'm really looking forward to see the results from this one. Already looking like good progress
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Looking forward to seeing this progress
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How easy was the clams to fit I'm looking at a 111r with the honda engine in it's damaged the back clam was it easy to replace.

Gud job by the way the Elise is my dream car
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How easy was the clams to fit I'm looking at a 111r with the honda engine in it's damaged the back clam was it easy to replace.

Gud job by the way the Elise is my dream car
Took a couple of hours to figure it out but now we know I'd say hour and a half to take off, about an hour to fit.

Basically not that difficult, issue is a replacement clam and cost but www.seloc.org will help got to the tech wiki section and it explains how to remove the clams.

Look for chassis damage, if it has any walk away
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It's very light so should be ok I got a jig any way I was looking at the larini exhaust systems dam they sound nice but not cheap I'm guessing yours is the k series's
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Took the door off today and it looks like it is beyond repair which is a sod, will have a better look later

Got some Paul Ivey valves today

8 off 28.5mm exhaust valves
8 off 32.5mm inlet valves

I have a Polished and Ported VVC head that i am going to use but will be off to Rog at Sabre to have a look and give it a little fettle

Spoke with Newmans Cams today and sent them the spec so we will see what they come back with regarding Cam design



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The elise already looks good compared to what it looked like when you got it
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Drew at Roverdose has stripped the 1.4 spi engine i gave him and the good news is it is the damp liner block which should help with strength





Jonathon at JDM Dyno has kindly made an exhaust turbo manifold for Tinytim on here and i asked for a jig to be made so he will be making a second one for me

It looks a tight squeeze but should be able to get everything in and will cut the panel behind the drivers seat to get the turbo in

Turbo will be a GTX2860 and will be ceramic coated as will the exhaust to keep heat down.





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That manifold looks the business mate let me know when you are having one made and give me an idea on price if you dont mind :-)
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That manifold looks the business mate let me know when you are having one made and give me an idea on price if you dont mind :-)
price was 650 but i doubt it will fit any of the front wheel drive cars as its a top mount turbo, was made for the elise i am afraid
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ssshh it wont be going in a front wheel drive ;-)
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DJ, that's a wet-liner block, damp-liner ones have the open deck. Wet linered blocks cannot go up on bore size so you will be stuck at 1400cc.

The rear crank flange on the steel crank looks a lot thicker than a stock crank too which may give you some alignment issues with flywheel and clutch arrangements.

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You told the wife you needed a new family car and got an elise....? Lol
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DJ, that's a wet-liner block, damp-liner ones have the open deck. Wet linered blocks cannot go up on bore size so you will be stuck at 1400cc.

The rear crank flange on the steel crank looks a lot thicker than a stock crank too which may give you some alignment issues with flywheel and clutch arrangements.

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Dave was going to fit a 1.8 crank to the wet liner for 1600cc using the 75mm bore but have a 1.8 turbo block that i will now convert

The rear crank flange is longer by 4mm, but i can get a flywheel made to sit 4mm closer just waiting on Arrow to call back about grinding the crank
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So glad when we got married we agreed to have seperate bank accounts
Have bought a VX220 turbo intercooler which i will mount in the drivers side pod and get some side scoops to help air flow

Also managed to find a nice Ported and Polished Head with 32.5mm inlets and 28.5mm exhaust valves and mechanical followers. Cams are 1227 which would be a little wild for the turbo but i may use the inlet cam and get a custom high lift low duration for the exhaust 10.5mm and 260 degrees for example.



Idea is to get the 1.8 turbo in the car with an intercooler, get the mems 3 up and running whilst buying bits as i go for a high power rover k series. This may change on whether the wife finds out, loses her job, kills me or baby comes early
Oh and Wayne at Pro Alloy kindly sent me a triple pass radiator
Spent most of today sorting out the heating, heater matrix and blower as the car has been sat for 4 years they have all corroded up. All working now
Lights were a bugger had issues with the light control module blowing, a lose connection and also an open circuit. Been frustrating few days but all working and hunky dorey now !
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160VVC engine is finally out with the gearbox loom and ecu
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