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best way of dealing with rust

As the suns shining, Ive decided to tackle the rusty arches on the 200.

Whats the best way to do it? Its still only on the lip of the arch and not visible on the bodywork yet on the back, however the two front ones are a bit worse..

I was going to use the dremel sanding stones to get the worst off, apply some rust treatment stuff that kills it, hammerite the area and then spray it in the spring if the black annoys me - car is almost black so wont stick out.

Do I need to prime and spray over the hammerite now or will it be ok as it is for a couple of months? Time, weather and no garage means I cant do a full job now but concerned the longer I leave it the worse it will get!

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Why have you used the Hammerite? You'll have to remove it then make sure there's no rust left whatsoever then prime and spray as usual.
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Kurst is the stuff that I have got!

So if I sand the old paint off thats flaking and then use the kurst first, then hammerite it will it be ok or do I have to prime it up afterwards?
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if your using hammerite then no you wont need to prime it.
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Ok, so before I get the dremel out and make a complete mess of it:

1) I need to get the loose paint, mud and rust off

2) put loads of kurst on the affected areas

3) apply hammerite - both inside and the outside of the arch lips

4) hope it looks ok and then spray it back to the car colour when we get a nice day again.

Is there anything else I need to do? I'll post some pics of before and after when its done!
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I would not use Hammerite for this job. It produces an almost "non stick" surface and I think any further paint would tend to fall off. Just use the conventional route of cure rust - primer - undercoat - top coat.
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quick update for you . . . only got the front ones done - took longer than I thought!

I sanded down the paint first, put loads of kurst on (surprisingly after moving wheel arch protector there was no rust behind, just on the front where stones had hit) and then used some anti rust primer.

The colour match isnt great one one wing - looks darker but fine on the other- could just be the light but will see when I lacquer it.

Just the back ones to do next. For 15 of bits, its not a bad job and better than leaving it to rot away even if its not bodyshop standards!!

Even treated her to an oil and filter change whilst I was waiting for the kurst to react!
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get pics up of the paint job mate
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Hope it goes well for you. Have a feeling the Kurust will have made things worse. That stuff is the worst of the rust remeady's and in my experiance just brings it back quicker and more aggressve.

Rust is like a cancer and there is only one cure for that, remove it. Best three rust remeadyies that I have used over the years with great sucess are,

Jenolite-hard to get hold of these days as another company took them over and this keeps rust at bay for about 2 years,

Frost-Most exepensive and with good reason, Used some on a 600 rear arch and after 4 years not a MM of rust had come back through.

Loctite Rust Remady-Great stuff and cheap, plus it turns a diffrent colour when all the rust has been removed so even an idiot can use it. So far kept rust away for about 6 months (thats upto the current date).

Kurust on experiance will allow the rust to come back through after 3-6 months.
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Hope it goes well for you. Have a feeling the Kurust will have made things worse. That stuff is the worst of the rust remeady's and in my experiance just brings it back quicker and more aggressve.

Rust is like a cancer and there is only one cure for that, remove it. Best three rust remeadyies that I have used over the years with great sucess are,

Jenolite-hard to get hold of these days as another company took them over and this keeps rust at bay for about 2 years,

Frost-Most exepensive and with good reason, Used some on a 600 rear arch and after 4 years not a MM of rust had come back through.

Loctite Rust Remady-Great stuff and cheap, plus it turns a diffrent colour when all the rust has been removed so even an idiot can use it. So far kept rust away for about 6 months (thats upto the current date).

Kurust on experiance will allow the rust to come back through after 3-6 months.
Its done now but will take note if/when it comes back. Little motor factors I use had Jenolite when I popped for some oil and a filter - maybe I will go back and get some if its difficult to get and then I can use that on the rear arches.

I used to use kurst on my metro and it didnt come back - although it was scrapped after about 9 monthsof doing it due to a dramatic MOT fail so cant comment on long term resistance
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FWIW, i use kurust and have had no problems so far.

Also, jenolite is widely available on ebay.
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get pics up of the paint job mate
I will get some up when my camera has charged, however it doesnt look too good this morning in sunlight! Bodywork appears not my strong point. At least the rust has gone and from a couple of feet away it looks better!!!
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I used Kurust on my R8's arches and bonnet..painted it after and it didn't come back for the 8 months that I had the car.
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