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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 19-02-2011, 13:58 Thread Starter
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mg zr 105 > tf135 engine

Hi guys thinking of buying a tf135 engine and dropping it in my mk2 105, I know this is an easy swap but there is a few things im not 100% on. I would be using my ib5 box intill it goes bang
1. can I run the tf135 on my 1.4 injectors?
2. as im using the ib5 box do I have to use the 1.4 clutch or will the tf135 one mate to the ib5 box ?
3. im looking at geting the engine bare so no loom or ecu, can I just use my 1.4 loom and get my ecu loaded up with the tf135 map ?

I would be using my all auxiliaries components and bolt them straight on here is a pic of my bay so you guys get the idear
made 114bhp on the rollers

oh and does all tf135 engines come with the metal inlet :?
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good looking engine bay. nice and clean!!

135 is a PG1 fitment gearbox so it has a different flywheel.

Your need to fit your IB5 1.4 flywheel and clutch to the 1.8 engine.

All your engine parts will work on it as its all mems3, but I advise getting the 1.8 135 spec engine ecu so its fueling it correctly. The 1.4 ecu will run the 1.8 and it will be laods quicker than the 1.4 but to get all the performance its best to fit the ecu too. I think your have to get the 1.8 135hp ecu programed to your mk2 ZR kit as the fobs are different between the F with the 2 button for a the 3 button ZR fob?
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ok found out all the none vvc k series injectors are the same, and yes I will need to use my fly wheel and clutch.

but great post martin I did not think about the tf fob only having 2 buttons on the round one as my zr has the boot popper on it. so even if I get a tf ecu, bcu and fobs it will start but my boot wont open lol
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got some air in your top coolant hose....
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im doing the same mate , i was first going after the engine your getting but decided not to after realizing the costs of the ecu and parts needed.

i love your engine looks a beaut ,how have you got that orange piping in the coolant system id love to do that to mine.
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got some air in your top coolant hose....
they had just been fitted in that pic


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im doing the same mate , i was first going after the engine your getting but decided not to after realizing the costs of the ecu and parts needed.

i love your engine looks a beaut ,how have you got that orange piping in the coolant system id love to do that to mine.
they are glass coolant pipes mate custom job

do you have a mk1 or 2 as I did a deal with the guy to get the ecu bcu and 2 fobs
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my is a 04 mk1 i think i have everything i need now as i have been told i only need the drive shafts ! i would love to do that piping in mine but blue im also going to spray the manifold looks like you have done yours in either grey/silver a good choice in my opinion a i think i shall do the same
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you can get those pipes, i've seen them for sale somewhere. can't remember where though...
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ok cool mate speak to me on msn later when your finished . our plan is to get my engine bay like that nice new engine !!!
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my is a 04 mk1 i think i have everything i need now as i have been told i only need the drive shafts ! i would love to do that piping in mine but blue im also going to spray the manifold looks like you have done yours in either grey/silver a good choice in my opinion a i think i shall do the same


did you get the others guys engine off here ? and are you using the tf gearbox ?


engine optics make the coolant pipes and if you put blue coolant in you will get blue pipes lol
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im using the tf gear box yeah pg1. as tim hes the man knows a lot i know nothing and go of his guidance.
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ok found out all the none vvc k series injectors are the same, and yes I will need to use my fly wheel and clutch.

but great post martin I did not think about the tf fob only having 2 buttons on the round one as my zr has the boot popper on it. so even if I get a tf ecu, bcu and fobs it will start but my boot wont open lol
We simply load the 135 tune into your existing ecu - the alarm and fob operation remains unaltered..
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We simply load the 135 tune into your existing ecu - the alarm and fob operation remains unaltered..

thanks mark but to keep the cost down ie not going to see you for a remap just yet I can get the tf ecu, scu/bcu and fobs for an extra 25 but it needs to be the newer type scu to work with my mk2 and its coming from a 2003 tf. even then my boot will not pop open hahaha
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ok guys if all tf135 engines have a metal inlet does that mean they have been ported out and will flow better than the 120/105 head ?


and if I just buy the tf ecu how hard is it to get working with my scu and fobs?
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you know anyone selling 1.8 pg1 drive shafts? is all i need now to do the work got everything else
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take it the tf shafts are no good then ?
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i don't think they are otherwise we would use them i don't no just going on advice from a mate ask around on here someone else will no i guess there a different size.
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Hi guys thinking of buying a tf135 engine and dropping it in my mk2 105, I know this is an easy swap but there is a few things im not 100% on. I would be using my ib5 box intill it goes bang
1. can I run the tf135 on my 1.4 injectors?
2. as im using the ib5 box do I have to use the 1.4 clutch or will the tf135 one mate to the ib5 box ?
3. im looking at geting the engine bare so no loom or ecu, can I just use my 1.4 loom and get my ecu loaded up with the tf135 map ?

I would be using my all auxiliaries components and bolt them straight on here is a pic of my bay so you guys get the idear
made 114bhp on the rollers

oh and does all tf135 engines come with the metal inlet :?
What did you have done to this ZR to reach 114bhp?
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What did you have done to this ZR to reach 114bhp?
6 years down the road, the OP has probably grown up, got married, had kids and bought a MPV.

Looking at the photo I guess filter, TB, inlet and exhaust.
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6 years down the road, the OP has probably grown up, got married, had kids and bought a MPV.

Looking at the photo I guess filter, TB, inlet and exhaust.
Haha probs, I'm 17 and just getting into the MG/Rover scene. &Ah right, I'm assuming the head would have been ported to match the inlet? Or it wouldn't really benefit the engine would it?
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