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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 15-04-2016, 18:23 Thread Starter
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I only have a Haynes manual for my old 400, but I now have an 05 45 1.4 K Petrol.

I am trying to remove the cam cover right now.

I am not sure how to deal with the cam sensor. I don't want to unbolt the sensor because I don't have a replacement O-ring.

It must surely be possible to remove the plug at the end of the cam sensor lead from the metal bracket where the distributor used to be on earlier cars.
That way I could lift away cover with sensor still fitted.

How can I remove plug from said bracket without smashing something please?

Or is there another approach I should be taking?

Thanks!
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The spring clips require a pair of pliers. squeeze them in and the clip should unhinge itself and you can jiggle the socket out.

You can easily take the cam sensor off if you want. the o-ring is hardly a high stress component. I never replaced mine.

But yes you can just unclip the socket and remove it.
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The spring clips require a pair of pliers. squeeze them in and the clip should unhinge itself and you can jiggle the socket out.

You can easily take the cam sensor off if you want. the o-ring is hardly a high stress component. I never replaced mine.

But yes you can just unclip the socket and remove it.
The spring clip that holds the plug to the socket is not what is defeating me.

I can't separate the sensors wiring connector from the bracket that is bolted to the engine - which holds several plugs for other things as well. There is no spring clip for that, as far as I can see. I don't understand how it works.

P.S. You car may not have this bracket.
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You mean the bit attached to that cam cover metal plate thingy?

You need to rotate it and the slide it out wards at an angle. It's a weird push lock thing that is only held in place through gravity and tension.

I recommend unbolting the plate first with an 8mm socket and then see how best to twist the plastic clip to remove it. It shouldn't require any force.

You can then lay the cam sensor over the right hand side of the engine bay and carry on unbolting things.
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You mean the bit attached to that cam cover metal plate thingy?

You need to rotate it and the slide it out wards at an angle. It's a weird push lock thing that is only held in place through gravity and tension.

I recommend unbolting the plate first with an 8mm socket and then see how best to twist the plastic clip to remove it. It shouldn't require any force.

You can then lay the cam sensor over the right hand side of the engine bay and carry on unbolting things.
Thanks - but I did try twisting it, but it just seemed like I was going to smash it and still not get it out.

Anyone remember which direction to twist it, even?
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All I can remember is it comes out diagonally not laterally, and I needed to unbolt the plate to make it easier to get off.

Can you take a photo of the exact part you are having trouble with?
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All I can remember is it comes out diagonally not laterally, and I needed to unbolt the plate to make it easier to get off.

Can you take a photo of the exact part you are having trouble with?
It is number 11 in this diagram.

Rover 400/45/MG ZS Engine Harness - 1400/1600 - Yasaki Type at www.rimmerbros.co.uk

Seeing the shape of the cut-out suggests to me that rotation in not possible - do i have to bend bracket to spread it open maybe?
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K, so you want to remove the cam sensor cable from that right?

There's a plastic clip that holds it onto that piece of metal.

There is also a couple of 8mm bolts holding it to the engine.

Undo those. Now you have item 11 free to play with.

That W shaped prong that sticks out on 11? That's what the plastic clip should be stuck on. You should be able to simply lift off the cable or twist the plastic thingy around 45 degrees and now it will simply lift out of the hole.

Keep 11 separate as you will need to remove it to safely take off the top oil cover pan.

I will go film it on mine now to show you....brb.


Best I could do at short notice.
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As to your initial question. That bit I think you're talking about doesn't come off really unless you lever it out with a chisel or something.

The point however is, you don't really need to as the cam sensor doesn't require a new o-ring just from lifting it out.

Sorry I kind of realise what you were trying to ask....finally.
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