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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 19-03-2011, 22:36 Thread Starter
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Camshaft cover gasket change.

I wasn't going to do this one, but as someone was recently asking about it, I changed my mind.

Bear in mind that the actual pictures were of the Freelander engine, but the engine is the same.

The symptoms of the camshaft cover gasket going are obviously oil loss and oil down the top part of the engine. Another symptom can be oil gathering in the spaces where the spark plugs go.

Changing the camshaft cover gasket is quite an easy job.

To get full access you need to remove the engine inspection cover.

To do this you also need to remove the wind stop if you have one. Fold the roof back and remove the wind stop



Now fold the roof forward and undo the clips that hold the rear of the hood to the car body (At least unclip the hood to windscreen clips when you do this as it releases a bit of tension).



and fold the rear part of the hood forward. Remember to avoid creases in the window when folding. If you cannot get the rear hood to stay up by itself you can tie it up.

Next remove the wind stop brackets using an allen key



and the 3 cross head screws from the top of the T-bar cover.



The cover then pulls forward (you will have to move the seats forward first). There are 2 plastic push in fasteners at each end of the cover and two at the top of the arm rest. These simply pull out when you pull the cover forward, or break off if my experience is anything to go by. I am now sick of gluing them and I am going to use black plastic screws to hold in place. You may also need to pull the door seal off at each side to release the cover.

Pull the cover forward out of the way and rest on the seats.

Next you need to remove the two 10mm bolts (one at each end) holding the speaker pods to the body, and place out of the way.



The box in the picture is for holding any screws and bits removed. I really recommend this as it saves you hours of searching for bits.

Next remove the parcel shelf cover



and the soundproofing



and remove the inspection panel



You should now be faced with an engine (if not, then you have a bigger problem )

On the TF or MEMS 3

First remove the top cover from the engine. There are 3 8mm bolts. Two long ones at the top and a shorter one in the middle front.





This exposes the coil packs and HT leads



Two of the plugs are easy to get at and you just pull the plug caps up and out.



The other two are accessed by removing the two 8mm securing bolts and pulling each coil pack up and out



Next slacken and remove the 15 x 8mm bolts securing the camshaft cover in place.



The early MGF cover is slightly different.

Remove the 2 cross head screws holding the spark plug cover in place



and remove



Now remove the plug leads from the plugs and clear of the head. They are of different lengths and shouldn't be difficult to refit. If you are unsure then label them.

Remove the 15 x 8mm bolts.

Using a block of wood or hide faced hammer, tap around the edge of the camshaft cover to loosen it.

Remove the cover and you should see the old cover gasket.



Remove the old gasket and clean the mating faces of the cam carrier and the camshaft cover. Also inspect for damage.



Refit the new gasket, noting the orientation information stamped on it.



Now, reassemble the engine, torqueing the cover bolts to 9Nm.

Run the engine before refitting the engine inspection panel and check for leaks.

If ok then reassemble the rest of the car.

This is probably one of the easiest gaskets to change and should solve an annoying oil leak.

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Nice one CJJ.

I wanted to know how to get the T-bar off to change the speakers!

But why remove all that T-bar stuff to get the cover off? I get my engine cover off by undoing the 3 bolts under the T-bar with a small ratchet open ended spanner.

A bit fiddly, yes, but far quicker.
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Nice one CJJ.

I wanted to know how to get the T-bar off to change the speakers!

But why remove all that T-bar stuff to get the cover off? I get my engine cover off by undoing the 3 bolts under the T-bar with a small ratchet open ended spanner.

A bit fiddly, yes, but far quicker.
That is personal taste. When doing a job like this I remove the lot.
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Thread moved to How Do I? section so that it does not get lost.

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great how to clive nice pics and very well explained keep them comming.
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Thread moved to How Do I? section so that it does not get lost.
Link added to the How To sticky at the top of the MGF section.
Not happy.

If this is the policy now, I will stop doing my How to's.

It is not a toys out of the cot thing, it is a F/TF section thing. I get annoyed at thread moving at the best of times, but this is an F/TF item.

I go to a lot of trouble to do these how to's to help F/TF owners, if they are to be moved to a section where I don't want them and they won't get viewed then I will no longer bother.

I am not challenging your authority or the rules. If they are the rules then please let me know so that I don't waste any more time.
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Congratulations.

Now when someone does a search for Cam cover gasket in the MGF/TF section this thread no longer appears.



Great.



An excellent 'how to' written by an MGTF owner for owners of MGTFs and Fs that's moved out of the MGF/TF section so that anyone searching the MGF/TF section for MGF/TF Cam Cover Gasket how tos will no longer find it...........



....yes it's in a sticky, if you know where to look..... but it no longer appears under the MGF/TF search function......





.......I seem to recall a certain moderator berating a new member for not using the search function..........now newbies have no chance if these kind of threads are moved out of here.





If you want it elsewhere Mr moderator why not copy a link from here, or better still write one where you want it.

There is no rational for moving it out of the MGF/TF section, and if you think there is then surely you'll be very busy in the future moving all of CJJs how tos out of there, as the K series is so widely used across models.




This moderation smacks of pettiness and stupidity.

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I agree totally.
Which other MGR car has the same way to access the engine?
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Thread moved?
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Have to say I'm with Clive and others on this one - pointlessly moved thread.

Way to go to help new members again ffs
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Well done Clive and thanks for taking the time to do these wonderful How-To's

I can only echo other posts though in being bewildered at this thread being moved. This was quite clearly aimed at F/TF owners and is 100% relevent to the F/TF section.

Mogatrons has a good idea in copying the link onto the page where you'd like to see it, but please put the original thread back where it belongs.

I have read most of Clive's How-To's and, because of them and peoples' feedback, I have gained the confidence to try doing a few things to the car that I wouldn't have previously dreamt of- I know I'd never have gained that confidence and knowledge had these guides ended up in a different part of the website as I would never have found them or read them.

Please mods, could you moderate your moderations?

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thanks for the How to as ever Clive..
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Thread moved back to the F/TF section as requested.

The reason for the move to the general How Do I? area was because this question is constantly being asked in all the vehicle sections and is not an isolated F/TF problem. With the exception of the explanation of how to access the engine, this guide does an excellent job of describing the procedure and would be of help to many of the forum's members.

I will create a new thread in the How Do I? section to provide a link.

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Great 'How To' Clive.

Thanks to the Mod team for moving it back too
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All thats needed is for the mods to be more moderate
But seriously unless a thread is not specific f/tf related at all cant threads be left in the section where they are first posted and be linked to as was done in this case eventually if the mods deem it to be useful to other sections
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CJJ Thanks for your invaluable istructions on gasket change, i have an annoying little leak which I will now change, also copied your instructions on another site on how to replace collant pipes and bleed for stainless steel ones. Easy peasy if we ever meet large drink on me. Cheers.
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Thread moved back to the F/TF section as requested.

The reason for the move to the general How Do I? area was because this question is constantly being asked in all the vehicle sections and is not an isolated F/TF problem. With the exception of the explanation of how to access the engine, this guide does an excellent job of describing the procedure and would be of help to many of the forum's members.

I will create a new thread in the How Do I? section to provide a link.
Thanks.

I think that is the best way really.
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Is there a difference in quality between the genuine gasket at 16 and an aftermarket one at 7?
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