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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 15-04-2007, 20:07 Thread Starter
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MG TF160 Overheated - Now what?

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I'm from South Africa. A few days ago while on a long trip my MGTF160 over heated, steam coming out the expansion take cap. I stopped immediately waited for things to cool down and slowly added more coolant. The dash warning light only just came on once which i then turned off the engine. I have read most post re overheating. I have taken the car into the local dealer who has said the HG has failed. (I didn't notice any water in the oil) They want to remove the entire engine and reskim, change bearings and all sorts of things. They say that the engine may have warped and that bearing might also be damaged and it is safer to redo the entier engine, est cost of about 3000 pounds.

The next morning I started the enigine and drove the car (very short) and the engine power, sound and feel seemed normal.

My question IS this really the way to go or should i take the chance and just get the HG replaced?
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 15-04-2007, 20:14
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What age is the car?

It sounds like the expansion tank cap could have failed this may have by now lead to a HGF. I think the garage who you have taken the car to are looking for work even if it is a HGF.
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HI Its a 2003, must be buitl 2002. Think for the VIN its about 3000th made.

Definalty exapansion cap, water boils out slowly all the time while its hot.

So you think replace cap, HG and go on my merry way?
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Stephen, welcome and commiserations.

As Chris says, seems like a garage looking for work.

For £3000 you can get a NEW engine fitted and a set of tyres and quite a few tanks of fuel.

HGF - costs around GBP700 - 800 for a 'standard' hgf. New gasket kit, light skim of the cyclinder head, rebuild and refill, all done with engine in the car. Depending on age of car it is worth replacing the water pump while it's in bits. Also change the cambelts while it's in bits and replace the tensioner.

Still less than GBP 1000.

Send the extra £2000 to me and I'll make sure it is put to good use.


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The head needs to come off and be inspected before going any further.

Engine out makes it easier but it doesn't HAVE to come out.....
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Hi I'm from South Africa too that price sounds very expensive who is the dealer? They temd to take advantage of us as there are not many qualified people. I recommend you try a place calle Eemg if your in gauteng, he is not a dealer but replaced a head gasket on my TF and I'v had no problems!
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p.s. a head job costs +-R5000.00 not including a skim.
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HI,

Thanks, I'm IN Port Elizabeth. I will look them up, I'm prepared to send the car up there. I used the car carrier guys to get it down so might be worth sending it up to get it sorted out properly.

The dealership here is Lipstrew Motor Centre, they are Tata and Hyundai dealers, they used to be the MG service agents.

I'll call them, maybe they can remove the engine in PE and send it them to get repaired.
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HI,

Thanks, I'm IN Port Elizabeth. I will look them up, I'm prepared to send the car up there. I used the car carrier guys to get it down so might be worth sending it up to get it sorted out properly.

The dealership here is Lipstrew Motor Centre, they are Tata and Hyundai dealers, they used to be the MG service agents.

I'll call them, maybe they can remove the engine in PE and send it them to get repaired.
Like it!!....

I have relations who live nr Gauteng so it must be a good 6-700Km from Port Elizabeth..

Sending your car on a 1000 mile round trip to get repaired is dedication in my Book!!.
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If the car has significantly overheated, the head my have warped, hence them wanting to skim it. However as people have said, they are taking the michael with that quote.

My TF overheated when I first got it, due to faulty expansion cap and my local garage changed the HG as a matter of course - under warranty at the the time. They didn't skim the head, but "cleaned it up" with a rotory sanding disk (unbeknown to me at the time) and this was only picked up by another garage when the HG actually failed at 54,000 miles 3 years later.

Good luck getting it repaired. Sounds like you have a friend in the know over there now!

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HI TF160SA

Do you have a number for the garage? Spoke to the local guys here and basically they have said they dont have the skills here. So looks like it ship the car to JHB and get it repaired up there.

Thanks
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Wouldn't it make sense to replace the expansion tank cap and have a compression test? It may only be the cap.
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Great news, I have found a local garage who I will take the car tomorrow.
Cant wait to get my baby back!!
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I spent 3 weeks in SA back along - how I wish I sould come over and fix your car.....
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Hey great news, just as a matter of interest they are called Eemg and they can source parts and deliver them faster than the dealer! they are in JHB and the Number is Telephone Number 1 (+27) 11 789 7127. The New Tata dealers are rip off artists drop me a message when you need to change brake disks/pads the "dealer" charges +=R10000!!! Rover-Driver there are limited mechanics experienced with MGs here so the ex dealers take advantage they would never do a cost saving move like that!
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Dr dave I wish you were here i'm dieing to do some mods but there are no experienced people!
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HI TF160

I have given Darren, the local garage guy, your contact in JHB to order parts.

I delivered the car to him today with the workshop manual and he tested, it is HGF , but the leak is very small.

I'll know tomorrow when he strips the engine what the damage is.
Thanks for all the help
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Hi there plan to buy the same care 2morrow from a guy , the MG also have the same problem, I am in cape town, if you can give me any advice in this regard I will highly appreciate it
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