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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-03-2017, 13:14 Thread Starter
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Is it possible to get debris inside the hood header rail?

Since having my new hood fitted, I've had a rattle (well actually its more like something sliding side to side when I go round corners) from the parcel shelf area of the car. Ive had the hard top on until Sunday, so the hood has been folded back for about a month after getting it fitted.

Today I took out the T Bar cover, Speaker Pod and all of the Carpet/sound insulation from the area and have found nothing loose or floating around.

After being a bit stumped, I gave the hood frame a shake and heard something that sounds very much like my noise and I think I've narrowed it down to the header rail.

Is it possible to get loose debris in there and if it is, is it possible to get it out again? Its driving me round the bend!



One other question, looking on the Rimmer site, I see there is a strip of foam that is meant to go somewhere on the hood, presumable underneath the rear of the hood where it meets the engine inspection hatch. What exactly is this for?

Mine does not have this fitted, it seems to have mostly all been pulled off.
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Yes. More than likely it will be the bits of pop rivets left behind after the old ones were drilled out. Not easy to get out if not impossible.
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When changing the hood, the old rivets needs to be cut and replaced.

Part of the rivets remain in the hood frame and is that bit is you hear rattling.

One way of "fixing it" is to remove the whole hood, put it on one side, so all the bit go in one place, and fill it with a bit of silicon.

There could be other methods, but I don't know.

BTW, who changed your hood? I think should be part of the overall job.
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A company called jda trimming services in Maidstone.

I'm very disappointed and upset by the quality of their work at this point, judging by the one and only reply have had to my other post at the moment.

Will have to work out how to go about getting it sorted.
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Don't get upset more than you should Mike.

My hood was fitted by the all-known MG Owner Club, and I found so much problems with it, that is a shame.
They too left all the rivets floating and then, try to charge me to "fix it".

So, now, if I've ever to change hood again, I'll go for the complete set: new frame with hood over it.
Even if it cost more, is so much better and hassle free.
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A quick fix for the rivets to syop them rolling aound is to wait for a very warm day and drill out one rivet and then spray in some nice warm waxoyl or similar. as much as you can get in there and then go for a quick run that includes a few rapid changes of drection. The rivets will get a good coating of the waxoyl and as it solidifies they will be effectively glued in place. Replace the rivet you drilled out and all should be well.
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So, now, if I've ever to change hood again, I'll go for the complete set: new frame with hood over it.
Even if it cost more, is so much better and hassle free.

It's not too difficult to do yourself. I was very careful and slow, took about five hours with lots of coffee brakes. (Would be a lot quicker next time round). The last hood I changed was on a Series 3 Sunbeam Alpine when I was about 20ish I think. A long long time ago.
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It's not too difficult to do yourself. I was very careful and slow, took about five hours with lots of coffee brakes. (Would be a lot quicker next time round). The last hood I changed was on a Series 3 Sunbeam Alpine when I was about 20ish I think. A long long time ago.
5 boring (and swearing) hours of my life with the risk of a job poorly done?
I can pay 200 more and enjoy those 5 hours in my car.

Perhaps with a very sexy girl at my side... ^_^

I've seen Peter from MGMania fitting my rear glass window, and he knows what he was doing.
He spent 2 hours to do a professional fit.

I see my car as an hobby: if I have fun, I do it. If not, I'll pay for it.
The hood... is the "happy to pay" side.
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Sense of achievement. But the sexy girl sounds good.
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A quick fix for the rivets to syop them rolling aound is to wait for a very warm day and drill out one rivet and then spray in some nice warm waxoyl or similar. as much as you can get in there and then go for a quick run that includes a few rapid changes of drection. The rivets will get a good coating of the waxoyl and as it solidifies they will be effectively glued in place. Replace the rivet you drilled out and all should be well.
or expanding foam..
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Bought a TF few years back, previous owner had had a new roof fitted, for around 12 months I had rattles and the ends of pop rivets falling out every now and again....it doesn't rattle any more, but damn, it was annoying when it did
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Bought a TF few years back, previous owner had had a new roof fitted, for around 12 months I had rattles and the ends of pop rivets falling out every now and again....it doesn't rattle any more, but damn, it was annoying when it did
You are saying there is "a way out"?
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5 boring (and swearing) hours of my life with the risk of a job poorly done?
I can pay 200 more and enjoy those 5 hours in my car.
Do you have any vacancies where you work, I'd happily work for 40 an hour.

I enjoyed doing mine back in February 2010 in between snow showers.
I still look at it and think "I did that".

And left me 200 to spend on bling.
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When I did mine I knew I'd get "header rattle" but it's faded over the years.
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