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My '87 Rover 213SE

This 213 has always been in my family.

It was bought back in 1987 by my grandfather, who always kept it on a garage, and just used it in long trips or for "Sunday drives".

But as he got old, he started complaining about the car's heavy steering, and he wanted a small car. (off-topic: he went to the Rover dealer and he actually almost bought a 25, but my grandmother thought it was too big, so they bought a Opel (Vauxhall) Corsa instead ). This was in December 2002, and my granddad really liked the car, so he didn't want to sell it.

So, he gave it to my mom, which used it every day, until February 2008, when my brother got his driving license. He drove it until there was an accident with our other car (a Honda Concerto). After that, my mother drove it ever every day again, and she still does.

Enough talking, here are some photos: (from September 2009)















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My granddad gave this Rover some unique features





This picture is from April this year, after coming from the MoT! (which he failed, because some braking problems). Still, after that, we went again, and everything was ok!



Except for the usual problem: RUST! (here you can see the worst area)



But soon it will be repaired.



Standing next to his "daughter"

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Very nice, I had a 1986 213 many moons ago.
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What a nice sight, especially from abroad!
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The main reason why I want to stay with it so badly is because my mother is currently working in a shopping centre, and the car remains parked all day in a underground parking lot. Some dents started to appear...

Besides that, the car is too big and heavy for her. It is a gentlemen's car , she needs something smaller and more adequate for city use.

And, as my grandfather passed away in June 2008, I really want to keep the car... It brings me memories of my childhood.

And I also love the car's wedge style and amazing comfort.
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Also in the colour of the TV show Keeping up Appearances, the best colour.
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Very nice, I had a 1986 213 many moons ago.
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What a nice sight, especially from abroad!
Thank you! They really are great cars. It's a shame that, here in Portugal, people don't care about them at all. But still, they aren't rare in here, at all. I think that it is one of the most seen cars from the 80's, as well as Vauxhall Novas (here, Opel Corsa), Renault 4L, and that's it!
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But since we have it, there has been a problem, which got worse with time: there was an enormous vibration from the front wheels.

Yesterday, I replaced the original 13" wheels with the 14" from the Honda Concerto, and the problem was gone!

The car now has a smoother ride, the steering is lighter and more precise, and there is less noise coming from the tyres!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnMIt...layer_embedded




Yes, I know, the wheels don't look good. But I intend to replace them with some Lattice 14", from the Rover 416GTi
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These would suit it



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looks a very tidy example. This shape rover 200 is rare in the UK now too!!

SE gets all round electric windows I think?


the steel 14" wheels are the same as mk2 Rover 200 so its a good idea to use them.
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These would suit it



HERE
I know, but it's not worth it. I already found a good set of Lattice wheels in Portugal. I'm trying to contact the seller

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looks a very tidy example. This shape rover 200 is rare in the UK now too!!

SE gets all round electric windows I think?


the steel 14" wheels are the same as mk2 Rover 200 so its a good idea to use them.
It seems that these 200 are rare in the UK but not in Portugal, but Montegos are quite rare in Portugal, but not in UK (at least, I think so!) Weird, huh?

Yes, it does have 4 electric windows, and I think my grandfather ordered it with sunroof But no sight of it...

Those wheels came from my dad's scrapped Concerto, and the tyres were fitted just before the accident. It would be a waste of money not to use them!

BTW: Is there anything else from the Concerto that I could use on the 213?

Are the front disks compatible?
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I know, but it's not worth it. I already found a good set of Lattice wheels in Portugal. I'm trying to contact the seller



It seems that these 200 are rare in the UK but not in Portugal, but Montegos are quite rare in Portugal, but not in UK (at least, I think so!) Weird, huh?

Yes, it does have 4 electric windows, and I think my grandfather ordered it with sunroof But no sight of it...

Those wheels came from my dad's scrapped Concerto, and the tyres were fitted just before the accident. It would be a waste of money not to use them!

BTW: Is there anything else from the Concerto that I could use on the 213?

Are the front disks compatible?
Montegos are sadly rare in the UK as alot have been scrapped in the last few years, same with most 20 year old cars here.

I don't know the mk1 Rover 200 that well, but the small wing indicator lights,
wiper / light stalk controls. Maybe the lock barrels themselves. The steering wheel will fit,

The discs may well be the same. The Concerto is 99% mk2 Rover 200 (1990 to 1995 shape) so any mk2 Rover 200 parts that fit your mk1 rover 200 will fit.
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I found some old photos back from the early 90's





This one is from 1994.



These are from 1995 or 1996.





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This one is rather special.



It is dated from May 1987, and my granparents bought the car in April.

It had something written on the back.



It was sent by them to my older brother, their only grandchild at the time. It says that they sent it to show my brother their new Rover.

And I found yet another thing, when I was cleaning the 213's glove box:



It's the car's receipt. Lovely!
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nice landscape in the pictures!!
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That is a beautiful car, not many here in the UK now. My dad had a 1996 214 wedge shape and did 220,000 miles, so reliable, never had any problems. Wedge shape 200/213 series was always my favourite out of all the 200s.
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What a fab car. I had a 216VP in the 1990's and it such a nippy comfy car, this is a credit to your grand father.
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Thank you! As I think I already said, in Portugal we still have lots of them on our streets.

The 200 XH is my favourite 200 too, but I also like the following generations. Nevertheless, I always prefer Saloon cars, so I'd rather have a 400 XW than a 200.

Very soon this 213 will stop, for a good cause. We are already looking for a Rover Metro in order to replace this XH. Then, after the MoT, it will suffer the long expected "anti-rust" intervention, and also other kind of mechanical repairs. Something to be expected from a 205 000km (120 000+ miles), 24 year-old car. I expect it to be ready before I get my drivers license.

And then, I will start to modify it to look just as I always imagined, without ruining it's appearance - I am thinking of some Lattice wheels from a 416 GTi, "white" side repeaters, and that's pretty much it on the exterior.

On the interior, I will have the roof lining repaired, and I will install a radio from de 80's, with green illumination.

I have been recently asked if I wanted to change the original 1.3, 12-valve Honda engine to a 1.4, dual carb, 16 valve from a Concerto. It made me think for a while, but I won't do it. Petrol prices in Portugal are very, very high, and I want to leave it original. But probably I will have an upgrade on the brakes - by switching the original, solid front discs for the Concerto's ventilated ones.
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This thread makes me miss my 213
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Makes me miss my old 88 plate 216 Vanden Plas (Gold) and then my 89 plate 216 Vitesse (Silver). Great cars and never had a problem with them.

When the VP had gone beyond keeping going it helped keep my Vitesse alive.
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