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Dave, wasn't that the same unit as in my VVC engine?

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Other than the fubar'd part, what condition does the engine appear to be in? she was booked in for a full service last Tuesday which the 306 took instead.
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Dave, wasn't that the same unit as in my VVC engine?
Yes, exactly the same unit Steve
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Other than the fubar'd part, what condition does the engine appear to be in? she was booked in for a full service last Tuesday which the 306 took instead.
Looks very clean, one of the cleanest I've seen inside Simon.
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Always used Shell Optimax and Castrol Magnatec, Always warmed up and cooled down, I never boot cars from cold, or just stop them hot, thirty seconds of idle before driving or stopping, and keeping it below 2500rpm for the first 5 minutes, but as we've seen it does not ensure reliablility :-( you'll never know how hard the past owners will have treated it (unless you buy brand new)
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Always used Shell Optimax and Castrol Magnatec, Always warmed up and cooled down, I never boot cars from cold, or just stop them hot, thirty seconds of idle before driving or stopping, and keeping it below 2500rpm for the first 5 minutes, but as we've seen it does not ensure reliablility :-( you'll never know how hard the past owners will have treated it (unless you buy brand new)
When and if I take the cylinder head off I'm sure it will be just as clean inside there aswell....
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any chance of how a fubarred VVC unit sounds please ?
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any chance of how a fubarred VVC unit sounds please ?
It may be prudent not to run it in case it fails completely and totals the engine.

I think it sound like a heavy "clack clack clack" noise from the top end of the engine. Obviously varies with engine speed.
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any chance of how a fubarred VVC unit sounds please ?
Imagine a hammer hitting the top of the engine at half crankshaft speed.....

Brad - yeah, spot on!
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Imagine a hammer hitting the top of the engine at half crankshaft speed.....

Brad - yeah, spot on!
Can you hear what side it is?

Do you find out what side has gone by turning the crank by hand, as you did with the Coupe?

Did you ever strip the Coupes bad mech down to see what had actually happened to it - was it a tooth that broke off??
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It sounds f-ing awful, knock knock knock Knock knock, Imagine someone tapping the top of your engine with a hammer 500 times a minute and your somewhere close.
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It sounds f-ing awful, knock knock knock Knock knock, Imagine someone tapping the top of your engine with a hammer 500 times a minute and your somewhere close.
Heh Heh! Me and the Doc explained it in the same way seperately of each other :-)
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that bad !!

so it's not really subjective if it sounds bad or not, you can tell very easily.
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Hey you lot! Stop hijacking my thread!

Anyway, here she is..

De-orange!

Says Matt cmpletely missing the point of the thread!
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Can you hear what side it is?

Do you find out what side has gone by turning the crank by hand, as you did with the Coupe?

Did you ever strip the Coupes bad mech down to see what had actually happened to it - was it a tooth that broke off??
Yes, that's how I've done it - my trusted method.

The main VVC bearing had failed on Steve's - causing the whole unit to wobble hence the resulting slack/noise.
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De-orange!
Good shout although I think I have more than enough to do already!
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This was the bearing that failed on Steves Coupe VVC......I'm expecting the same on mine.



and an exploded view, giving a little more detail...

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De-orange!

Says Matt completely missing the point of the thread!
I would have done that eventually, prob have bought a De-oranged set, oh well, now back to the subject, whats the procedure now Doc?
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Strip off the cam carriers.......job for the weekend....and fit the good unit I hope I have!
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Have talked again to the garage who seemed to have the only guy in the Warrington area who knows the vvc mech well enough to say he could definatly fix it, says he would have charged me 750+vat to fix it, most of that is labour, oh well it looks like I made the right choice to sell her the Doc.
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