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Location: Near Swindon Car: Mercedes CLK, Classic Mini, Streetwise TD, ZR160, Kymco Pulsar 125
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Decats etc.
Right, it's come to my attention that a lot of people have started coming on here and asking about decats and things as of late.
Obviously wingy was the man when it came to things like this, but for reasons I don't want to ask about he's disappeared off the radar a bit. Literally about 1 mile up the road from me lives a guy who works with metal. He has a very good workshop with a lot of metal working tools, as well as a sand blasting booth and other things. I've spoken to him before about porting out my inlet manifold and he seemed perfectly happy and confident about giving it a shot. What I'm proposing is that if enough people are interested I will happily try and arrange the production and distribution to .org members of decats, and possibly ported inlet manifolds and other things. Not sure if exhausts are do-able but will definitely ask as I wouldn't mind one on my streetwise. My old powerflow 'box will not stick out far enough. But yeah, if anyone has any other ideas of what could be produced that would be good. Who else would be interested? Hopefully we can get at least 5+ members interested then I will definitely approach him. Can't see him saying no tbh. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here, just think that some people could do with some decats and other things, and I would quite like to help out, maybe learn off Lloyd (the metal guy) a few things along the way. cheers Ben
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I think it's a good idea, Wingy makes great products and all, but as you say he isn't around at the moment to supply the demand - there's been quite a few threads lately asking about decats.
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Im starting to think a De Cat is really not that important of a modification. It is really about increasing the pressure differential with exhaust gases to spool the turbo sooner. Ok, so the benefits are low range torque increases. Just by sticking in some SDI injectors, the newer l series seem to have more low end torque than the car can actually deliver to the road.
However, if we are thinking about fitting a larger turbo, then de cat most likely will be key to get ride of some of the lag. |
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If he could do them in Stainless Steel and the price wasn't too high then I'd be interested in one for my 220 SDi. Also would he be able to do EGR kits too, as you said Wingy has gone walkabouts and even when he was here I had a hard time contacting him about stuff.
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yeah egr kits shouldn't be a problem, I've got one spare at home that I've never used so could use that as a template.
cheers Ben
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Fantastic idea. I've actually contacted Wingy through his ebay store - and he informed me that he is getting some made up and they will be online 'soon', but count me in. What are the costs likely to be do you think?
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However, if Wingy's likely to be coming back with a new batch soon then it seems a bit pointless. Would need to know when he was making them etc. etc. because I don't think it would be worth it. cheers Ben
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Well bear in mind that i have sent several messages through the ebay store, i only got the one reply - he seems a hard man to get hold of. Point being though that this was about a month ago and as far as i know, nobody has heard anything since..
I think it would be worth getting them made up simply due to the amount of people looking to buy one at the moment... Either way, if you do get them made up, count me in. Charles |
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1. Radion_auto 2. 220 Deano (possibly?) I'll ask if he can do stainless steel.
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Good on you Benno for doing this another source for decats can't be bad, you could always get a batch done and stick them on Ebay.
Don't think there is a need for stainless steel though its so hot up there it will last for years if made out of mild steel. |
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Good point about ebay. I noticed there is a second hand wingy one on ebay at the mo with bids on it, so I guess there is demand for them. cheers Ben
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I know the decat's last ages but was looking at getting a complete Stainless exhaust system anyway so I did ask Wingy about making a Stainless Decat and he said he would do them as long as 3 people wanted them but that was months ago.
I just didn't see the point of getting a complete stainless system and then fitting a mild steel decat. Might as well go complete SS and not worry about any of the exhaust system then. |
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Ben, bag the insides out of the cat, cheap job done
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yeah nar mean. I'm not worried about getting one for myself though, still got my wingy item, which is now on the 'wise. Just thought that a couple of the newer people who come on here wanting to start doing some mods do their dervs could do with a good quality decat.
By the way, you still able to get hold of drivers air vent gauge pods dude? cheers Ben
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i mentioned this months back but all i got was dont bother. i was on about doing de-cats and egr blanks. but nobody was inpressed
Just a quick note that there are already decat pipes available for the L series which are of a trusted design and build quality at a reasonable price. So why would you want to go to the cost, time and hassle of producing an alternative especially coming from a relativly unkown and source? Oh and if you want to be able to openly sell them on here the cost of £180 or so to become a legitimate trader. This is just my opinion and it entirely upto you if you want to progress further with this project at the risk of causing possible anamosity between yourself and other forum members. Cheers Mark. |
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as I said earlier, I'm not trying to step on anyones toes. Its just that a lot of people coming on here asking how to start modding their dervs, and the normal response is to start with a decat.
I'm not doing this for profit, just to try and help out a few people and maybe learn some new skills along the way. And where is this supply of L series decats? Again, not trying to step on anyones toes but decats are getting quite hard to come by as of late. look, if there isn't enough demand for them and people are gonna start getting arsey then I won't bother, just thought it would help a few people out thats all. cheers Ben
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At the time of your original post about decats etc T.Morris which was 23/09/08 I think Wingy was still around and making them hence the reply you had from Mark. But at the moment the only one's I've seen around are those BHP Boosters Decats which aren't worth squat due to being the wrong size.
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1. Radion_auto
2. 220 Deano (possibly?) I'll ask if he can do stainless steel.
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