British GP

[iburnley]

Originally Posted by soj

No, this was 1965 Things have moved on somewhat, great choice of image don't you think?

yeh nice photo, ok 1965 might be a slight exaduration, but silverstone still has a long way to go in my view.

As for the race well a good win by webber glad to see alonso didnt win, even if he does appear to be the best driver on the track at the moment, and another crap weekend for Mclaren.

[soj]

Originally Posted by iburnley

yeh nice photo, ok 1965 might be a slight exaduration, but silverstone still has a long way to go in my view.

As for the race well a good win by webber glad to see alonso didnt win, even if he does appear to be the best driver on the track at the moment, and another crap weekend for Mclaren.

I couldn't agree more! McLaren have serious problems and they seem totally unable to see them. I would have loved to see Hamilton or Button win in a British car, ah well. At this rate i will be hoping VW enter F1 and badge the cars as Porsche to wipe the floor you know who... maybe not but McLaren looked hopeless this weekend.

[Kryt]

Originally Posted by barkingdog

Think it's becoming a farce already. Time to shift the venue to Donington.

So, the complete ******* aren't just confined to Twitter and Facebook then. Please actually think before you say crap like that. Full reason for me saying that : my blog post about it here:
http://www.edugeek.net/blogs/synaest...ing-moron.html
Until you get a clue try not to comment. It also covers "why they don't have stands out of their ears like everyone else" "why they can't just concrete over half of england" etc. And Donnington? Don't make me laugh.

Not half a bad race otherwise - considering the conditions Silverstone did a fantastic job keeping things workable for as many as possible. Lots of action in the race despite it being dry throughout. Not a great day for our boys but they still showed smiles and had a laugh with the fans after. Certainly glad Webber won out of "the rest of them"

As for Maldonado, glad he was given fault again and it's clearly time he was given a good Ide'ing (if you don't remember Ide then look it up and you'll see what I mean)

[Windy]

Originally Posted by Kryt

As for Maldonado, glad he was given fault again and it's clearly time he was given a good Ide'ing (if you don't remember Ide then look it up and you'll see what I mean)

Maldoanado - "I came out of the pits with DRS open. I did the braking on DRS ... I lost the car on the entry to the corner, right on the apex with the front and then the rear"

Shouldn't be allowed to use DRS out of the pits and around the first corner with cold tyres!

And then Kobyashi got fined two and a half times the amount that Maldonado did

[Kryt]

Kobi made an honest mistake - nearly half the grid have misplaced the car on pit before, including the best of the best. Maldonado is a clear danger to himself and others on the F1 circuit. Fines were the wrong way round

[soj]

Originally Posted by Kryt

Kobi made an honest mistake - nearly half the grid have misplaced the car on pit before, including the best of the best. Maldonado is a clear danger to himself and others on the F1 circuit. Fines were the wrong way round

Have to agree, I said this last year when he had a "spat" with Hamilton but the anti Hamilton brigade were out in force probably because he was doing better than was allowed....
Fines were indeed the wrong way around. Who was responsible for the amount of money etc in fines? Not the old guy (Roseannes husband) with the moustache and his head stuck up his rectum by any chance?

Edit: By the way, Post 43 above /\

Originally Posted by Kryt

http://www.edugeek.net/blogs/synaest...ing-moron.html

The problem starts here: Consider
Cut from your blog.
Consider exactly how much money Silverstone will lose, refunding all those unused tickets for yesterday and today. That's a hell of a lot of money....

Most of the idiots who are complaining are the sort who only consider themselves at any given time and are therefore unable to consider another perspective.

[Julian.heap]

Originally Posted by Windy

Maldoanado - "I came out of the pits with DRS open. I did the braking on DRS ... I lost the car on the entry to the corner, right on the apex with the front and then the rear"

Shouldn't be allowed to use DRS out of the pits and around the first corner with cold tyres!

And then Kobyashi got fined two and a half times the amount that Maldonado did

If that happened in the race (i presume it did, i was over my brothers so didn't get to watch it) then that is surely cheating by the williams team, the DRS is supposed to close as soon as the brake are applied, if it does not then they must be disabling part of the system, thus cheating.

Also the DRS is not ment to open unless you're with in a second of the car your trying to pass and in the DRS zone, so again at the end of the pits thats cheating. If that is whats happening then they should be thrown out of the constructer's championship.

[MalcQV]

What a great weekend of racing. Not sure I would have wanted to be camping there though. One or two of the pictures in the paper made it look a bit damp
Pleased that with Massa doing well the Ferrari is now a pretty competitive car

[Pete27011]

I think we are looking at a Ferrari?Redbull battle for the remainder of the season,i honestly cannot see Mclaren turning around their fortunes the car is nowhere.
Since Adrian Newey defected to Redbull Mclaren have never had a consistently good car,Ron Dennis must be kicking himself.
Button will never win another Title with any team and neither will Lewis as long as he drives a Silver car with a German badge on the bonnet.

[MalcQV]

The McLaren was arguably the best car at the start of the season. It will be good again and pretty soon I would think.

[Pete27011]

A link with Lotus Renault for Lewis Hamilton in todays sports news,I doubt Lewis will want to remain with Mclaren next year either as he has wasted too many years with a poor car under him and his frustration is growing,i think this year will be his last with the Wokingham outfit.

[Ray_S]

Finally got around to watching the GP, still not watched all of Valencia yet...

Anyway race wise it was ok and was amazed it stayed dry.

Maldonado needs to go back to GP2 with those moves, surprised Perez didn't deck him to be honest. €10k fine and a time penalty from Valencia for all the crap he has pulled seriously?

So we get the same podium as last year just mixed up a bit this year, not sure what to make of the new podium set and procedure.

Did all the wet running hurt McLaren and others? I mean most teams had major development upgrades at Silverstone, maybe they didn't get a chance to test them properly?

Kobayashi pit incident could of been so much worse, glad everyone was ok. Still not sure a €25k fine was warranted considering it was a genuine accident?

Well done Massa, decent race.

TV coverage, well the wing walking on the BBC was probably worth the license fee.

Sky kept us upto date with Maria de Villota situation at the start of every broadcast and all their mics had her stars.

I watched Sky's coverage first and did lol when Coulthard and Brundle collided on the grid.

Sky aired the McLaren cartoon during the buildup and post race.

The BBC forum was good despite all the mic issues on stage. Hate to say it but Vettel again proves he has a sharp witted sense of humor, damn I want to see Lee McKenzie in that red dress now.

Surprised the crowd didn't snub Sky, or maybe they did and Sky were quick to cut?

[Windy]

Originally Posted by Ray_S

Maldonado needs to go back to GP2 with those moves, surprised Perez didn't deck him to be honest.

I thought Perez did much beter than "deck him" with that interview, for a very young driver whose first language isn't English he really couldn't have done that better! Within hours his words where on every sports site on the web with nobody disagreing.

Originally Posted by Ray_S

not sure what to make of the new podium set and procedure.

I can't wait for Kimi to get on the podium!

Originally Posted by Ray_S

Did all the wet running hurt McLaren and others? I mean most teams had major development upgrades at Silverstone, maybe they didn't get a chance to test them properly?

They never fitted dry tyres in practice or qualifying and conditions where constantly changing so no testing could be done.

The other problem was that they set the cars up for a wet Sunday so the suspensions were all wrong - I suspect that was what caught Maldonado out - looked to me like he deliberately swerved towards Perez to try and force him off the track, then corrected the swerve but misjudged the correction as there was far more body roll than normal and he ended up flinging the back of his car out and into Perez!

Originally Posted by Ray_S

Kobayashi pit incident could of been so much worse, glad everyone was ok. Still not sure a €25k fine was warranted considering it was a genuine accident?

It seems like all safety related pit incidents get a fine warranted or not.

Originally Posted by Ray_S

damn I want to see Lee McKenzie in that red dress now.

Source: http://www.leemckenzie.tv

[soj]

Originally Posted by Pete27011

I think we are looking at a Ferrari?Redbull battle for the remainder of the season,i honestly cannot see Mclaren turning around their fortunes the car is nowhere.
Since Adrian Newey defected to Redbull Mclaren have never had a consistently good car,Ron Dennis must be kicking himself.
Button will never win another Title with any team and neither will Lewis as long as he drives a Silver car with a German badge on the bonnet.

My money is on ferrari winning the title but call it as you will. I see another special relationship with another tyre manufacturer. Bernie is floating the whole kaboodle soon so they need to win a title now to get more money and a bigger share from the sell off, they haven't won one since 2008.
Adrian Newey or that guy who designed the greatest road car ever Gordon Murray yes both are brilliant designers.
McLaren may well end up designing their own engine next,
if they have the time between animated films etc. Couldn't agree more about Button and Hamilton as things stand neither of then could win a Clio Cup race at the moment
However this is F1 and things soon turn around ....hopefully.

[MGJohn]

Originally Posted by Pete27011

A link with Lotus Renault for Lewis Hamilton in todays sports news, I doubt Lewis will want to remain with Mclaren next year either as he has wasted too many years with a poor car under him and his frustration is growing,i think this year will be his last with the Wokingham outfit.

Although it would mean big changes within team McLaren and for the drivers affected, I would like to see Hamilton drive for another team. It would be a decent yardstick to measure the breadth of his talent outside the McLaren cocoon he's been inside since he was a little boy.

I do not think the McLaren car is a bad as some would have you believe. Same with the Ferrari. Even Eddie Jordan who's views I usually respect, I believe is wrong in repeating that the Ferrari is as some have said a 'Dawg' of a car. The all important race form of the Ferraris since race one has been there for all to see.

Originally Posted by Some say

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Ah, but John, that's not the car, it's the "Driving God" Alonso that's done that....
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Yeah right.. .....Nobody can go without the car!

I was disappointed with the British Grand Prix. As soon as the red lights went out and Alonso cut across denying Webber the chance of a pass I thought we were in for another processional yawn up front. I was wrong about that. I was impressed with both Alonso and Webber at the end when the situation appeared a done deal with none of this red mist "no way am I letting him pass" rubbish some drivers have admitted too. Usually at some cost to themselves and more importantly, the team that employs them.

Originally Posted by soj

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Couldn't agree more about Button and Hamilton as things stand neither of then could win a Clio Cup race at the moment
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Praise be for that ..
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[Ray_S]

Originally Posted by Windy

I thought Perez did much beter than "deck him" with that interview, for a very young driver whose first language isn't English he really couldn't have done that better! Within hours his words where on every sports site on the web with nobody disagreing.

Yeah the Perez tirade was quite good, shame Maldonado says he won't change his style though I can't wait until he tries a bonehead move on Schumacher cause Schumacher will put him in the wall or just deck him.

Originally Posted by Windy

I can't wait for Kimi to get on the podium!

It will just the same interview as always. Interviewer: Was the race ok? Kimi: Yes the race was ok (monotone).

Originally Posted by Windy

They never fitted dry tyres in practice or qualifying and conditions where constantly changing so no testing could be done.

The other problem was that they set the cars up for a wet Sunday so the suspensions were all wrong - I suspect that was what caught Maldonado out - looked to me like he deliberately swerved towards Perez to try and force him off the track, then corrected the swerve but misjudged the correction as there was far more body roll than normal and he ended up flinging the back of his car out and into Perez!

Nice analysis Windy.

Originally Posted by Windy

It seems like all safety related pit incidents get a fine warranted or not.

Yeah it seems that way.

Thanks for the pic.

Originally Posted by MGJohn

Yeah right.. .....Nobody can go without the car!

The car has got significantly better since the start of the season, you can see Alonso and Massa no longer fighting the massive understeer/oversteer the car had at the start of the season from the onboards.