Horrible Vibration

[danztt]

Got a rally horrible vibration, i think its up front, gets worse when turning left and really bad above 80mph (private road obviously). Any thoughts. I hope its only wheel bearing but open to suggestions. Inc labour what am i looking at fir bearing?

[robdrinkwater]

Originally Posted by danztt

Got a rally horrible vibration, i think its up front, gets worse when turning left and really bad above 80mph (private road obviously). Any thoughts. I hope its only wheel bearing but open to suggestions. Inc labour what am i looking at fir bearing?

Could be as simple as a wheel out of balance, could be a wheel bearing or a track rod end, really needs to be looked at underneath to see what has got play.

Therefore cost wise, impossible to tell.

Regards, Rob.

[marley]

As Rob says! Although, I had a rear whel bearing fitted a few weeks ago, it cost me £126. (he also re-attached the cruise control switch, on the clutch pedal the same time too!).
Mine was more of a "droning" noise though? Which gradually got worse. At first I put it down to worn tyre noise.

[danztt]

wheels have been balanced and tracked recently. track rod ends, wishbone rubbers, and anti roll bars look good and are very solid (no excesive play)

[lewisr]

Did you get all 4 wheels balanced, I had a vibration a few years ago as soon as I hit 70 MPH and could not find it, again had wheels balanced to no effect at first. Then went to another garage and told them the problem and they suggested it could be rear wheel balance, as all the standard places tend to just do the front wheels. Sure enough cured the problem , has never happened again.

So might be worth getting rear wheels checked.

Ray

[wuzerk]

DANZTT, is it only at speed or does it occur when pulling away? i.e. 'think simple' have you checked the lower engine mount yet?

[danztt]

Originally Posted by wuzerk

DANZTT, is it only at speed or does it occur when pulling away? i.e. 'think simple' have you checked the lower engine mount yet?

Havent checked that one yet. however vibration is always there just gets worse turning left.

Lewisr. Had all for wheels off, balanced and 4 wheel laser tracking carried out by Kwik Fit.

[pernix]

Could be worn /bent drive shaft or failing cv joint.

[robdrinkwater]

OK, did the vibration occur before the wheels were balanced? If not, then get it back to whomever did the balancing and get them to do it right this time, they do make mistakes.

If it was there before, the vibration can only come from an imbalance, so drive train, wheels & steering components are favourite.

MAybe even a distorted tyre.

Regards, Rob.

[danztt]

The vibration was present before the balance and tracking was done. I did have quite badly pitted/corroded brake disc on the front but i changed all discs and pads. Vibratio still present, when i changed the brakes I checked all bushes that i could see for play. carried out the usuall shake and rotation of wheels to check for play in bearing but couldnt find anything out of the blue, all cv boots look good with no seepage of grease, also no noticable grinding or knocking from cv joints. Starting to run out of ideas. I have somebody putting the car up on ramps on wednesday to check lower engine mount, anything else i should have checked/looked at whilst the car is on the ramp? I a really stumped now. and its bugging the crap out of me. if ti is the engine mount why does the vibration only get worse when turning left?

[wuzerk]

Originally Posted by danztt

The vibration was present before the balance and tracking was done. I did have quite badly pitted/corroded brake disc on the front but i changed all discs and pads. Vibratio still present, when i changed the brakes I checked all bushes that i could see for play. carried out the usuall shake and rotation of wheels to check for play in bearing but couldnt find anything out of the blue, all cv boots look good with no seepage of grease, also no noticable grinding or knocking from cv joints. Starting to run out of ideas. I have somebody putting the car up on ramps on wednesday to check lower engine mount, anything else i should have checked/looked at whilst the car is on the ramp? I a really stumped now. and its bugging the crap out of me. if ti is the engine mount why does the vibration only get worse when turning left?

Turning left? No idea but,since the lower mount is quite easy to check it is worth a look before you get suicidal!

[ts autos]

Check the lower arm back bush bolted on to the subframe the rubber perishes causing fore and aft movement

[newcybrown]

I have had very similar symptoms of late, but I have a slight vibration when moving off and if I turn RIGHT then it seems to get slightly worse this only occurs at low speed once the car is up to around 20mph then the vibration disappears.

All the wheels are balanced and tracking is spot on, track rods, drop links, bearings, bottom ball joints, all seem to be ok. Have replaced lower engine mount recently

Pernix post about worn or bent driveshaft seems feasible and also ts autos for the lower arm bushes, will be checking these 2 areas asap.

Thanks to ALL for posting possible solutions to this problem

[danztt]

Have justbeen to a garage and the guy there rekons it could be the Differential Bearing, how likely do any of you rekon this is? He would like to car for 2-3 hours at £50 per hour to confirm his diagnosis.

Item 4 is what he rekons is fubar'd and rimmer want £29.22 each including VAT
How many hours for labor should i rekon on if it is this causing the problem, apparently its a gearbox out job? can anybody confirm this?

Lower engine mount was fine, both wheel bearings are good, wishbones & rubbers fine, and no distortion on the drive shafts just excess play by the diff.

Dont want to get fleaced this close to crimbo.

Any advice welcome

[marley]

Personally, Id be mega reluctant to give some guy 3 hours work @£150.00 for something which may or may not need replacing?
Cant you go to another garage/garages for their opinions also?

[RitchyP]

3 hours labour to remove and strip the gearbox is xheap, and if it doesnt sort it ya dont have to pay if he has diagnosed it wrong

[harrybozing]

A similar thing happened to me a while back, had the front wheel bearings replaced, only to have the fault recur a few weeks later, found out to be excess runout in the front hub, worth checking. Hope you are sorted soon, regards, Harry.

[marley]

Originally Posted by RitchyP

3 hours labour to remove and strip the gearbox is xheap, and if it doesnt sort it ya dont have to pay if he has diagnosed it wrong

I wish I knew of a garage (come to think of it! even a plumber/builder/electrician etc!) who will do 3 hours work for nothing!!!!!!

[Douglas evans]

Funny old world !

Can I just confirm that I am the said technician that has had a breif look at dan's zt-t at may I state NO COST I have advised Dan that I would like the vehicle for a maximum of 2 hours to confirm the fault , As it could be any number of possible faults usual labour rate is £55 ph plus vat as stated by Dan I have offered the services at £50 ph.

Regards Doug .

[danztt]

Originally Posted by Douglas evans

Funny old world !

Can I just confirm that I am the said technician that has had a breif look at dan's zt-t at may I state NO COST I have advised Dan that I would like the vehicle for a maximum of 2 hours to confirm the fault , As it could be any number of possible faults usual labour rate is £55 ph plus vat as stated by Dan I have offered the services at £50 ph.

Regards Doug .

Yes Doug you are the said Technician.

As you can see from the thread you can see where most of the suggestions came from that I mentioned to you. Her who must be obeyed has decree'd that the car must wait until after crimbo. will pop in to the garage in the New Year to arrange for proper diagnosis. Had the car up on the ramp in the motor club today to try and see where the play was you mentioned. if it is that diff then it's got to be a garage job as i dont have the time to do it myself.

Cheers for taking a look yesterday. And Marley, Doug gave up time working on somebody elses car to take mine out and give a provisional diagnosis for nothing. He could have billed me for 30 Mins labour to carry out this work and didnt, so once again Doug Cheers, probably one of the reasons you get so much work from the Station.