BREAKING NEWS! ~ K Series Head Gasket developments - improved design - MG-Rover.org Forums

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 10:27

Found out something very interesting today re: K Series head gaskets......

More later!

Phil · 31-01-2006, 10:37

How later is later?

M4RTIN · 31-01-2006, 10:40

advice not to use a gasket anymore? no more hgf then lol

220SLi16v · 31-01-2006, 10:41

You can make one out of a cornflakes packet?

M4RTIN · 31-01-2006, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by 220SLi16v

You can make one out of a cornflakes packet?

maybe blue peter will be making one later

220SLi16v · 31-01-2006, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by M4RTIN

maybe blue peter will be making one later

I thought it was blue peter who make the K series in the first place lmao

E_T_V · 31-01-2006, 11:33

No, blue peter made the plastic head locating dowls out of washing up liquid bottles!

Amaranth_214 · 31-01-2006, 11:34

blue peter also made the coolant bottle out or a margarine tub..so so very small

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 11:52

no no no, it's proper news.......in about an hour.

Roperman · 31-01-2006, 11:59

why the wait, hurry man! my 3rd (witnessed) HGF is currently sat outside waiting for the head to come back from the skimmers

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 12:30

Land Rover have redesigned the K series 1.8 head gasket and upgraded the lower rail that the head bolts screw into.

The head gasket has lost it's elastomeric beads and now has a laminated type of construction and the lower rail is beefed up - it must have an effect upon the clamping load. Head torque figures remain unchanged.

Picture three shows the very thin metal coated shim that is fitted on top of the headgasket

M4RTIN · 31-01-2006, 12:35

hmm didnt think they used the k anymore, just diesels...

anyway, just using the HG you reckon thats now well worth using, also how easy is it to change this lower rail...

of course my revised design k will never get hgf

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 12:37

Sump off job to change the rail.....

parsec · 31-01-2006, 12:38

I thought all Land Rover K's were supplied by PowerTrain, if so why did these changes not make it into MGR cars? Have LR been stripping the engines down and modifying them after delivery? Where are LR sourcing there K engines from now if they're still being used?

Too many questions!

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 12:41

I don't know what's happening supply-wise at the moment, but LR have to look after the owners of Freelanders with the K Series - hence the redesign. Quite who has done the redesign work is beyond me - it must be LR themselves?

parsec · 31-01-2006, 12:49

Well it was said recently (either on here or keith's site) by an ex-employee that PT knew exactly what was needed to stop the head gasket problems, but the P4 weren't interested in spending the money. I wonder if this knowledge has made it over to LR?

This is good news anyway, for TF owners in particular.

Forgot to say, well done Major, a good find!

Brad Pitt · 31-01-2006, 12:58

Major.

Are LR actually building cars with these mods, or is this a bulletin for dealers to implement when a car appears with HGF??

None of these engines left PowerTrain with these mods did they??

If LR are building cars with these mods, they must be rebuilding their engine stock with these mods before letting them onto the line.

Brad Pitt · 31-01-2006, 12:59

Major,

Is that not like the post 800 (mk2) KV6 head gasket?

Amagoza · 31-01-2006, 13:15

Interesting, that's kind of similar to the Ford Zetec E engine gasket.
Aren't LR using Ford lumps now?

Dr Dave · 31-01-2006, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Hicks

Major,

Is that not like the post 800 (mk2) KV6 head gasket?

Very similar

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31-01-2006, 10:40	#3
M4RTIN Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: solihull Car: streetwise again.. :) Posts: 5,827	advice not to use a gasket anymore? no more hgf then lol

31-01-2006, 10:41	#4
220SLi16v Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Crewe, Cheshire Car: Rover 200 (-95) Posts: 170	You can make one out of a cornflakes packet?

31-01-2006, 11:33	#7
E_T_V Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Under a car near sheffield Car: Maestros, 200, 600 Posts: 11,637	No, blue peter made the plastic head locating dowls out of washing up liquid bottles!

31-01-2006, 11:34	#8
Amaranth_214 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gravesend Car: Silver Posts: 2,269	blue peter also made the coolant bottle out or a margarine tub..so so very small

31-01-2006, 12:35	#12
M4RTIN Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: solihull Car: streetwise again.. :) Posts: 5,827	hmm didnt think they used the k anymore, just diesels... anyway, just using the HG you reckon thats now well worth using, also how easy is it to change this lower rail... of course my revised design k will never get hgf

31-01-2006, 12:38	#14
parsec Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North West Car: ZS180/R45 2.0TDi Posts: 3,935	I thought all Land Rover K's were supplied by PowerTrain, if so why did these changes not make it into MGR cars? Have LR been stripping the engines down and modifying them after delivery? Where are LR sourcing there K engines from now if they're still being used? Too many questions!

31-01-2006, 12:49	#16
parsec Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North West Car: ZS180/R45 2.0TDi Posts: 3,935	Well it was said recently (either on here or keith's site) by an ex-employee that PT knew exactly what was needed to stop the head gasket problems, but the P4 weren't interested in spending the money. I wonder if this knowledge has made it over to LR? This is good news anyway, for TF owners in particular. Forgot to say, well done Major, a good find!

31-01-2006, 12:58	#17
Brad Pitt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Disposed of old tat. Fun bags for me now! Car: Other Manufacturer Posts: 2,110	Major. Are LR actually building cars with these mods, or is this a bulletin for dealers to implement when a car appears with HGF?? None of these engines left PowerTrain with these mods did they?? If LR are building cars with these mods, they must be rebuilding their engine stock with these mods before letting them onto the line.

31-01-2006, 12:59	#18
Brad Pitt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Disposed of old tat. Fun bags for me now! Car: Other Manufacturer Posts: 2,110	Major, Is that not like the post 800 (mk2) KV6 head gasket?

31-01-2006, 13:15	#19
Amagoza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Car: Other Manufacturer Posts: 1,699	Interesting, that's kind of similar to the Ford Zetec E engine gasket. Aren't LR using Ford lumps now?

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