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Mark.L · 16-05-2006, 18:37

Another job done on the new TF today!.

In heavy rain water would drip down the inside of the passenger window!.

As you can see from the first pic below its easy to see why!!!..

Had a similar leak on the old `F` and same cure applied to the TF if its any help to anyone!.
In the first pic it looks like the window is out of line as its not pushing against the screen seal as it should, but instead going over the side creating the gap!.

The problem is caused by the seal on the corner of the screen/roof bending in and down as the seal locating peg loosens and bends, so not pushing the seal against the window.... hence the gap!.

The cure is to remove the hood clamp bracket (screen), then pull away this seal....... its then a case of lifting the seal and re-locating the peg fully in its hole, this should bring the seal `out and up` to meet the top of the window!........ a small adjustment of the hood clamps was also needed to eliminate a tiny remaining gap!

You can see the difference it makes in the second pic!!

Petevick · 16-05-2006, 18:53

*pete runs off to the garage with spanners*

James C · 16-05-2006, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by petevick

*pete runs off to the garage with spanners*

Wait for me! It's better than my insulation tape fix!!

mgfjackson · 16-05-2006, 20:22

ah cool i just leave the window down a bit and push it into the rubber, but im gonna have a go at it

Petevick · 16-05-2006, 21:52

I think I'm going to spend some time and put all these great little 'fixes' into a 'how to' web site, wadda think ???

M77XNE · 16-05-2006, 21:55

I'm going to get my dad on the case at the weekend to sort my leaks out for me. My dad is great - after all, what are dads for!?!?!

and Pete, I think you have a fab idea there!! Do you fancy your own personal PA???

Mark.L · 16-05-2006, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by petevick

I think I'm going to spend some time and put all these great little 'fixes' into a 'how to' web site, wadda think ???

Sounds good Pete!.

Am fitting a new interior either over this weekend or next week depending on work!..

Changing most of the interior stuff so will take some piccies if you wish for a `how to` type thing if that helps!.

Petevick · 17-05-2006, 05:44

yeah, anything Mark. There was 'talk' of such a section on here, but no sign of it ever happening

. I'm don't intend to cover existing stuff, I'll just get permission from the orginator to supply a link.

Sambo. · 17-05-2006, 06:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by petevick

yeah, anything Mark. There was 'talk' of such a section on here, but no sign of it ever happening

. I'm don't intend to cover existing stuff, I'll just get permission from the orginator to supply a link.

http://mr2oc.co.uk/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base

That's my bible when I'm trying to fox my MR2. If a new fix is posted on the forums, anyone can submit that post to the "Know your 2" section for a modrator to edit and pubish.

I'm shocked that this website doesn't have one.

17-05-2006, 06:57

Clicking the link came up as 'access denied' I'm afraid....guess they can sense us F/TFrs who don't also have an MR2 at 100 cyber-paces!

DAVIDT6DCM · 17-05-2006, 07:20

That's good bit of info Mark, mine not leaking but the fit is awfiul,will have a wiggle about with it this weekend.

Sambo i couldn't open either,link just froze my page , Dave

Sambo. · 19-05-2006, 20:08

Oops, sorry, you need to be a member to see it, but I've taken a few sneaky screen-grabs...

http://simon-cooper.net/temp/3.jpg
http://simon-cooper.net/temp/2.jpg
http://simon-cooper.net/temp/1.jpg

Herbie · 28-11-2006, 13:54

Sorry for pulling up, but:

Thanks Mark !!!
What a useful tip, almost repositioned the hole seal and worked a treat, makes my F so less noisier and I have a good feeling in general now. Did the cheater and windows adjustment a few months back, so this was the "i-dapple" (i-tüpfelchen, maybe not translatable) ......

Worth every minute to do that, also Curgy's tip ref. the cantrail seals (loosen little nut, pulling seal toward a-frame, closing nut) was great !!!

Danke Mark and James

AlexF · 07-03-2007, 15:03

oh no!

the 1st picture has gone.... any chance of uplaoding it again?!

I think I have the exact same problem - so before I go chasing my tail this weekend taking the door apart I'd love to see if my MGF is doing the same as yours!

Thanks

ALex

jonrice81 · 07-03-2007, 18:31

yes mine is also doing this. just the passanger side window. it just doesnt fit snuggly into the seel.

can anybody put up an easy step guide to fixining this?

cheers

Jut · 29-06-2007, 00:30

sorry for the thread necrophillia, but anyone got a step by step guide preferably with pics to do this?

Herbie · 29-06-2007, 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jut

sorry for the thread necrophillia, but anyone got a step by step guide preferably with pics to do this?

G'morning Jut, this may help you (Cantrail seal):
http://www.mgfcar.de/adjust/Adjust01.PDF

gavnorton · 02-02-2009, 16:32

How glad am I that this thread is on here, just bought an older TF and cannot get good seal on passenger side with hood up. Its as if Cantrail seal forces window out at top.

I have done all the window adjustment and cheater adjustment

any chance of a link to curby's thread ref cantrail adjustment with little nut.........

Obviously I am well behind the drag curve, glad I am not alone though, this forum is a godsend.

16-05-2006, 18:37	#1
Mark.L Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cheshire Car: Honda S2000 Posts: 5,663	Roof/window leaks... Another job done on the new TF today!. In heavy rain water would drip down the inside of the passenger window!. As you can see from the first pic below its easy to see why!!!.. Had a similar leak on the old `F` and same cure applied to the TF if its any help to anyone!. In the first pic it looks like the window is out of line as its not pushing against the screen seal as it should, but instead going over the side creating the gap!. The problem is caused by the seal on the corner of the screen/roof bending in and down as the seal locating peg loosens and bends, so not pushing the seal against the window.... hence the gap!. The cure is to remove the hood clamp bracket (screen), then pull away this seal....... its then a case of lifting the seal and re-locating the peg fully in its hole, this should bring the seal `out and up` to meet the top of the window!........ a small adjustment of the hood clamps was also needed to eliminate a tiny remaining gap! You can see the difference it makes in the second pic!! Last edited by Mark.L; 16-05-2006 at 22:08.

16-05-2006, 18:53	#2
Petevick regained interest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire Car: MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow Posts: 39,683	pete runs off to the garage with spanners __________________ Pete Vickerstaff - Proud to drive an MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow MG F/TF Central - your one stop shop for MGF/TF tips, tricks, faq's, how to's and links Soft Resin Badges for sale

16-05-2006, 21:52	#5
Petevick regained interest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire Car: MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow Posts: 39,683	I think I'm going to spend some time and put all these great little 'fixes' into a 'how to' web site, wadda think ??? __________________ Pete Vickerstaff - Proud to drive an MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow MG F/TF Central - your one stop shop for MGF/TF tips, tricks, faq's, how to's and links Soft Resin Badges for sale

17-05-2006, 05:44	#8
Petevick regained interest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire Car: MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow Posts: 39,683	yeah, anything Mark. There was 'talk' of such a section on here, but no sign of it ever happening . I'm don't intend to cover existing stuff, I'll just get permission from the orginator to supply a link. __________________ Pete Vickerstaff - Proud to drive an MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow MG F/TF Central - your one stop shop for MGF/TF tips, tricks, faq's, how to's and links Soft Resin Badges for sale

28-11-2006, 13:54	#13
Herbie Werder Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany Car: MGF 1.8i & MGTF 1:18 Posts: 12,129	Sorry for pulling up, but: Thanks Mark !!! What a useful tip, almost repositioned the hole seal and worked a treat, makes my F so less noisier and I have a good feeling in general now. Did the cheater and windows adjustment a few months back, so this was the "i-dapple" (i-tüpfelchen, maybe not translatable) ...... Worth every minute to do that, also Curgy's tip ref. the cantrail seals (loosen little nut, pulling seal toward a-frame, closing nut) was great !!! Danke Mark and James __________________ Stephan Hebert MGF 1.8i / 1998 MK 1 / HB-SH 718 / CAQ Daytona - 52mm TB - TF Steering Rack - Compliance Washers - Clear Indicators - Assorted Bling Last edited by Herbie; 28-11-2006 at 14:07.

16-05-2006, 20:22	#4
mgfjackson Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Car: MGF Posts: 74	ah cool i just leave the window down a bit and push it into the rubber, but im gonna have a go at it

16-05-2006, 21:55	#6
M77XNE Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northamptonshire Car: Audi TTR 225 :) Posts: 3,997	I'm going to get my dad on the case at the weekend to sort my leaks out for me. My dad is great - after all, what are dads for!?!?! and Pete, I think you have a fab idea there!! Do you fancy your own personal PA???

17-05-2006, 06:57	#10
Andie B Guest Posts: n/a	Clicking the link came up as 'access denied' I'm afraid....guess they can sense us F/TFrs who don't also have an MR2 at 100 cyber-paces!

17-05-2006, 07:20	#11
DAVIDT6DCM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Wales Car: MGTF160 Posts: 2,385	That's good bit of info Mark, mine not leaking but the fit is awfiul,will have a wiggle about with it this weekend. Sambo i couldn't open either,link just froze my page , Dave

19-05-2006, 20:08	#12
Sambo. Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norfamptun Car: MGF VVC & MR2 GT-i16 Posts: 44	Oops, sorry, you need to be a member to see it, but I've taken a few sneaky screen-grabs... http://simon-cooper.net/temp/3.jpg http://simon-cooper.net/temp/2.jpg http://simon-cooper.net/temp/1.jpg

07-03-2007, 15:03	#14
AlexF Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newbury Car: MGF Posts: 60	oh no! the 1st picture has gone.... any chance of uplaoding it again?! I think I have the exact same problem - so before I go chasing my tail this weekend taking the door apart I'd love to see if my MGF is doing the same as yours! Thanks ALex

07-03-2007, 18:31	#15
jonrice81 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Car: Classic Rover Posts: 84	yes mine is also doing this. just the passanger side window. it just doesnt fit snuggly into the seel. can anybody put up an easy step guide to fixining this? cheers

29-06-2007, 00:30	#16
Jut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Car: MG TF 160 :D Posts: 497	sorry for the thread necrophillia, but anyone got a step by step guide preferably with pics to do this?

02-02-2009, 16:32	#18
gavnorton Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Car: MG TF Posts: 4	Thank god How glad am I that this thread is on here, just bought an older TF and cannot get good seal on passenger side with hood up. Its as if Cantrail seal forces window out at top. I have done all the window adjustment and cheater adjustment any chance of a link to curby's thread ref cantrail adjustment with little nut......... Obviously I am well behind the drag curve, glad I am not alone though, this forum is a godsend.

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