Help where is any esso ezl 799 cvt fluid - MG-Rover.org Forums

Driftingin · 19-01-2011, 12:59

Ive tried to the point of being totally frustrated to find any of this fluid for my Streptronic MGF. I am in the Midlands in uk . Im advised to use nothing else . Been to two specialists and have no idea what they put in gearbox or if anything at all . I still have the no performance problem after new selector being fitted ie no power and no sports mode .. But only on cold days ??? Changing gearbox fluid i think will help but i cant find any ;o(( . Thankyou for reading and any help would be much appreciated .

MGMT · 19-01-2011, 13:05

Give your local parts department at Fords a call.... I seem to remember them using it and being able to get it / stock it - hope it helps

Kameleon · 19-01-2011, 14:40

Maybe this will do you?
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-XPT002002OF

TipperMG · 19-01-2011, 16:01

Don't use Ford's stuff, it's a different spec. Don't use anything any other garage suggest because they don't usually have any experience of CVT gearboxes. Definitely, don't use standard auto box fluid!!!!

You are right to demand Esso EZL799. It's now branded Mobil and is available a BMW MINI dealer because the early 'new' MINI automatics have the same gearbox.

I bought 20 litres becuase I intend to keep my car a few years but am told if you take a suitable can to the MINI parts counter they will sell it by the litre. Worth a phonecall first. It's expensive from BMW though! (Usual BMW gold plated parts prices I'm afraid!)

On your specific fault, after the gearbox has a fault it goes into 'limp' mode and needs a process called 'adaption' performed for the gearbox to relearn what it is supposed to do. Sorry haven't a link for it but a bit of googling should find it.

Blondieelj · 18-07-2011, 19:46

Hi Guys,
I have a 54 ZS 120+ with a CVT box (recon) and I sourced my gearbox oil from BMW Mini in Kentish Town, NW London after many failed attempts and a few blank faces from various mechanics, £17 for a litre and half and Mini grumbled about giving me a decent plastic bottle to take it home in!
Here is their number, 0207 485 6011, try giving them a call and they may be able to give you the number for a Mini parts shop nearer to where you live.

My girl just had her service and low and behold my reverse switch has been leaking and they topped my box up with a litre of black blooming oil !!! My hubby and I felt sick when we heard the manager say that and when we explained it all he tried saying his mechanic used the right stuff brought it all up on the garage computer and my hubby clearly pointed out that the screen said manual and mine is a AUTO!!!!!
So now I have instructed them to drain the lot and replace with the proper stuff, they tried saying unipart CVT fluid would be ok becuase that is what the garage PC says but I was having none of it and gave them all the codes and said when it arrives to call me and hubby will go to the garage and check if its the right gear because I have a recon box not even a year old and I dont want to invalidate the warranty.

Good luck Driftingin!!

mgfnortheast · 18-07-2011, 20:27

Just got mine from rimmer brothers and also bought the drain plug washer at the same time.

stux99 · 13-08-2011, 20:38

Just to clear up a misunderstanding, Unipart CVT is the same as BMW MINI.
I have been using same on 2 cvt boxes for over 4 years now.

TipperMG · 13-08-2011, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by stux99

Just to clear up a misunderstanding, Unipart CVT is the same as BMW MINI.
I have been using same on 2 cvt boxes for over 4 years now.

But...

http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=433736

Are you sure?

stux99 · 14-08-2011, 06:25

Well spotted, electrical fault on ratio control
Fluid not at fault, yet ;-)
When we first got the F box failed as a result of the garage thinking any ATF would do!! It was rebuilt and ever since has run on Unipart (on its 3rd change now) and sweet as a nut.
As a precaution this time on the TF I will be relacing filter and fluid pan seal as well. Having only covered 25k in 9 yrs.

TipperMG · 14-08-2011, 06:41

Good to hear you solved the fault. Was it just connections or a faulty part?

Also good to know that with correct maintenance these CVT gearboxes run well.

Mine has only 17k on it in 7 years and I'm keen that it gives as long a life as the car!

stux99 · 14-08-2011, 06:46

Thanks fro reply, I think it was the connection at fault (corrosion), fingers crossed. But as above fluid and filter change is in order as well. Cant fault the CVT otherwise, I love it.

LeighPing · 14-08-2011, 07:43

Some pics would be nice Stux99

. No doubt it might come in handy for others. Fingers crossed. Cheers.

stux99 · 14-08-2011, 08:01

Will post some pics when kit arrives, also pic of offending connector.

stux99 · 16-08-2011, 20:07

Just back from Unipart NO LONGER AVAILABLE :-(
What now,? B*W ?

19-01-2011, 12:59	#1
Driftingin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Car: MGF Posts: 12	Help where is any esso ezl 799 cvt fluid Ive tried to the point of being totally frustrated to find any of this fluid for my Streptronic MGF. I am in the Midlands in uk . Im advised to use nothing else . Been to two specialists and have no idea what they put in gearbox or if anything at all . I still have the no performance problem after new selector being fitted ie no power and no sports mode .. But only on cold days ??? Changing gearbox fluid i think will help but i cant find any ;o(( . Thankyou for reading and any help would be much appreciated .

19-01-2011, 14:40	#3
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19-01-2011, 16:01	#4
TipperMG Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: 04 TF Steppie and 'Project' 03 TF160 Sprint Posts: 2,314	Don't use Ford's stuff, it's a different spec. Don't use anything any other garage suggest because they don't usually have any experience of CVT gearboxes. Definitely, don't use standard auto box fluid!!!! You are right to demand Esso EZL799. It's now branded Mobil and is available a BMW MINI dealer because the early 'new' MINI automatics have the same gearbox. I bought 20 litres becuase I intend to keep my car a few years but am told if you take a suitable can to the MINI parts counter they will sell it by the litre. Worth a phonecall first. It's expensive from BMW though! (Usual BMW gold plated parts prices I'm afraid!) On your specific fault, after the gearbox has a fault it goes into 'limp' mode and needs a process called 'adaption' performed for the gearbox to relearn what it is supposed to do. Sorry haven't a link for it but a bit of googling should find it. __________________ MGTF...Coilsprung Durch Technik? ------------------------------------------------ Three Holiday Apartments in Looe, Cornwall sleeps up to 14 www.proper-property.co.uk

18-07-2011, 19:46	#5
Blondieelj Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: NW London Car: MG ZS Posts: 3	Ezl 799 (a) Hi Guys, I have a 54 ZS 120+ with a CVT box (recon) and I sourced my gearbox oil from BMW Mini in Kentish Town, NW London after many failed attempts and a few blank faces from various mechanics, £17 for a litre and half and Mini grumbled about giving me a decent plastic bottle to take it home in! Here is their number, 0207 485 6011, try giving them a call and they may be able to give you the number for a Mini parts shop nearer to where you live. My girl just had her service and low and behold my reverse switch has been leaking and they topped my box up with a litre of black blooming oil !!! My hubby and I felt sick when we heard the manager say that and when we explained it all he tried saying his mechanic used the right stuff brought it all up on the garage computer and my hubby clearly pointed out that the screen said manual and mine is a AUTO!!!!! So now I have instructed them to drain the lot and replace with the proper stuff, they tried saying unipart CVT fluid would be ok becuase that is what the garage PC says but I was having none of it and gave them all the codes and said when it arrives to call me and hubby will go to the garage and check if its the right gear because I have a recon box not even a year old and I dont want to invalidate the warranty. Good luck Driftingin!! Last edited by Blondieelj; 18-07-2011 at 19:51. Reason: Spelling

13-08-2011, 20:38	#7
stux99 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somerset Car: ZT-T 260SE/MGTF Step/ TF160 Posts: 219	Just to clear up a misunderstanding, Unipart CVT is the same as BMW MINI. I have been using same on 2 cvt boxes for over 4 years now. __________________

19-01-2011, 13:05	#2
MGMT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Basingstoke Car: 1.8 VVC Posts: 736	Give your local parts department at Fords a call.... I seem to remember them using it and being able to get it / stock it - hope it helps

18-07-2011, 20:27	#6
mgfnortheast Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Car: MGTF & MGF Steptronic Posts: 673	Just got mine from rimmer brothers and also bought the drain plug washer at the same time.

14-08-2011, 06:25	#9
stux99 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somerset Car: ZT-T 260SE/MGTF Step/ TF160 Posts: 219	Well spotted, electrical fault on ratio control Fluid not at fault, yet ;-) When we first got the F box failed as a result of the garage thinking any ATF would do!! It was rebuilt and ever since has run on Unipart (on its 3rd change now) and sweet as a nut. As a precaution this time on the TF I will be relacing filter and fluid pan seal as well. Having only covered 25k in 9 yrs. __________________ Last edited by stux99; 14-08-2011 at 06:33.

14-08-2011, 06:41	#10
TipperMG Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: 04 TF Steppie and 'Project' 03 TF160 Sprint Posts: 2,314	Good to hear you solved the fault. Was it just connections or a faulty part? Also good to know that with correct maintenance these CVT gearboxes run well. Mine has only 17k on it in 7 years and I'm keen that it gives as long a life as the car! __________________ MGTF...Coilsprung Durch Technik? ------------------------------------------------ Three Holiday Apartments in Looe, Cornwall sleeps up to 14 www.proper-property.co.uk Last edited by TipperMG; 14-08-2011 at 09:07.

14-08-2011, 06:46	#11
stux99 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somerset Car: ZT-T 260SE/MGTF Step/ TF160 Posts: 219	Thanks fro reply, I think it was the connection at fault (corrosion), fingers crossed. But as above fluid and filter change is in order as well. Cant fault the CVT otherwise, I love it. __________________

14-08-2011, 07:43	#12
LeighPing Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: West mids Car: MGTF LPG 120 Stepspeed Posts: 278	Some pics would be nice Stux99 . No doubt it might come in handy for others. Fingers crossed. Cheers.

14-08-2011, 08:01	#13
stux99 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somerset Car: ZT-T 260SE/MGTF Step/ TF160 Posts: 219	Will post some pics when kit arrives, also pic of offending connector. __________________

16-08-2011, 20:07	#14
stux99 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somerset Car: ZT-T 260SE/MGTF Step/ TF160 Posts: 219	Just back from Unipart NO LONGER AVAILABLE :-( What now,? B*W ? __________________

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