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Mgwanderer · 07-02-2012, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by technozen

I initially used the OBD cable that came with the unit and had live data with it from my MEMS2J 200VI and a MEMS1.9 Rover 400.

I then made up a lead for 5AS programming and decided to add a switch which allows me to use one lead for MEMS and 5AS, this lead gave me live data on MEMS1.9/2J/3.

Since the weekend I have had live data on a Jag XK8, Vauxhall Astra, Rover 25 and an MGF.

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Thanks i'll try the OBD cable for live data,

what are you switching to be able to do that???

technozen · 07-02-2012, 21:50

The 5AS uses two data lines, a separate IN and OUT. On the diagnostic connector these are pins 3 and 1.

MEMS uses a single bi-directional line on Pin 7.

Pin 3 and Pin 7 end up at the same pin on the DB25 connector at the T300 so the switch simply connects the correct one depending on what the lead is being used for.

Mgwanderer · 07-02-2012, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by technozen

The 5AS uses two data lines, a separate IN and OUT. On the diagnostic connector these are pins 3 and 1.

MEMS uses a single bi-directional line on Pin 7.

Pin 3 and Pin 7 end up at the same pin on the DB25 connector at the T300 so the switch simply connects the correct one depending on what the lead is being used for.

Many thanks, I will try to mod my lead and see what the results are on my unit.
I will let you know the outcome

Once again many thanks

RichinVancouver · 08-02-2012, 00:43

I have a Faultmate diagnostic system made by Blackbox Solutions. It does most everything Rover's Testbook does. You only buy the software you need for your application and it is suitable for just about every MG-Rover vehicle. It works very well on my early MGF with it's MEMS 1.9.
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/products.html
(Not the easiest site to navigate FYI)

Mattlav · 11-02-2012, 19:26

Just looked i have one connection and a small lead.. so MEMS 1.9? anything i can do/get that isnt too expensive?

Julian Foulger · 20-02-2012, 10:54

I received my T300 unit last week.

Cabled it up and it all works. Cleared all fault data (all historic and in relation to high voltages at various sensors plus one low battery).

Also reads live data. Good value for what it does and came in case.

I have a MEMS 2J.

nikolas · 29-02-2012, 12:10

is it possible to shoot a video on the use of the tool??
or is it so easy to use..??

also, what is the case with this cable..?? http://themgclub.org/showthread.php?p=4115101

Julian Foulger · 29-02-2012, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolas

is it possible to shoot a video on the use of the tool??
or is it so easy to use..??

also, what is the case with this cable..?? http://themgclub.org/showthread.php?p=4115101

It is very easy to use. No problem at all and very interesting (especially the live data function).

nikolas · 29-02-2012, 15:51

i m looking forward to receiving mine..

all necessary equipment is included, right..??

Jason F VVC · 29-02-2012, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolas

i m looking forward to receiving mine..

all necessary equipment is included, right..??

Me too

Julian Foulger · 29-02-2012, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolas

i m looking forward to receiving mine..

all necessary equipment is included, right..??

For accessing main ECU - yes.

For recoding the alarm / Fob you need to buy a 5AS cable off EBAY. Not expensive.

Popeye 89 · 04-03-2012, 14:22

does this work with diesels?

adamelphick · 04-03-2012, 15:24

Definitely be interested in one of these - seems like a very useful bit of kit considering i need to get a fob programmed anyway!

Do yo think it would work on a 1998 Range Rover too?

Julian Foulger · 04-03-2012, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamelphick

Definitely be interested in one of these - seems like a very useful bit of kit considering i need to get a fob programmed anyway!

Do yo think it would work on a 1998 Range Rover too?

I suspect it does as RR is LR and that is on the list of manufacturers the kit deals with.

adamelphick · 04-03-2012, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Foulger

I suspect it does as RR is LR and that is on the list of manufacturers the kit deals with.

Great news as keeping the Landy going on a severe budget is not so easy! I don't want to get rid of it as it was my dads before he died so it's got sentimental value (and actually a great car too).

Jason F VVC · 08-03-2012, 20:38

Got mine today, so far used it on the 'F' ( Mems 2J ) used it to clear historic faults, and I can confirm it WILL talk to the ecu.

technozen · 08-03-2012, 21:14

This might be of some use as regards key fob programming...

http://roy.duitman.nl/Rover_Manual.pdf

nikolas · 14-03-2012, 14:17

am i doing sth wrong, or mine is faulty../?

do you have a rover specific plug or you use the obd2 one?

mine doesn't have rover specific plug..i connected obd2, never started..

i then tsted it on familys Polo it blinked for a while, then it started..seemed.. ok..

i unplugged it, and replugged it to confirm that it would start again, but it wouldn't start..

shall i think of replacing it??

Julian Foulger · 14-03-2012, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolas

am i doing sth wrong, or mine is faulty../?

do you have a rover specific plug or you use the obd2 one?

mine doesn't have rover specific plug..i connected obd2, never started..

i then tsted it on familys Polo it blinked for a while, then it started..seemed.. ok..

i unplugged it, and replugged it to confirm that it would start again, but it wouldn't start..

shall i think of replacing it??

You use the OBD2 one even for OBD1 cars.

Worked fine on mine first time. Plug in first and then turn on ignition to 2 for historic faults or 3 (ie start) for live data.

Make sure plug fully in both ends. There is a right way up.

nikolas · 14-03-2012, 19:23

it worked only one time on family's Polo,
and never turned on since then..

also the only time that turned on, the screen blinked for a while, which didnt seem normal..

either there is problem with the wires, or with the tool itself..

07-02-2012, 21:50	#42
technozen Mmmm....Rover.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brighton. Car: 200vi & Freelander XEDi Posts: 9,880	The 5AS uses two data lines, a separate IN and OUT. On the diagnostic connector these are pins 3 and 1. MEMS uses a single bi-directional line on Pin 7. Pin 3 and Pin 7 end up at the same pin on the DB25 connector at the T300 so the switch simply connects the correct one depending on what the lead is being used for. __________________ I offer FREE engine/alarm diagnostics and fob coding (incl. Pektron fobs) to mg-rover.org Supporters - details here. Fob not working? Common faults and fixes here. Pektron BCU/SCU Faulty? This may be of some help. Full SCU programming and repair services available. Discounted SCU/BCU Full Relay Replacement Service - only for Supporters - details here Replacement relays for the Pektron SCU available - .org Supporters buy 4, 5th is free - PM for details.

29-02-2012, 12:10	#47
nikolas Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Athens-Greece Car: Rover 200 (95-99) 'Bubble Shape' Posts: 2,474	is it possible to shoot a video on the use of the tool?? or is it so easy to use..?? also, what is the case with this cable..?? http://themgclub.org/showthread.php?p=4115101 Last edited by nikolas; 29-02-2012 at 12:21.

08-03-2012, 21:14	#57
technozen Mmmm....Rover.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brighton. Car: 200vi & Freelander XEDi Posts: 9,880	This might be of some use as regards key fob programming... http://roy.duitman.nl/Rover_Manual.pdf __________________ I offer FREE engine/alarm diagnostics and fob coding (incl. Pektron fobs) to mg-rover.org Supporters - details here. Fob not working? Common faults and fixes here. Pektron BCU/SCU Faulty? This may be of some help. Full SCU programming and repair services available. Discounted SCU/BCU Full Relay Replacement Service - only for Supporters - details here Replacement relays for the Pektron SCU available - .org Supporters buy 4, 5th is free - PM for details.

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08-02-2012, 00:43	#44
RichinVancouver Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Canada's Pacific Coast Car: MGF Posts: 792	I have a Faultmate diagnostic system made by Blackbox Solutions. It does most everything Rover's Testbook does. You only buy the software you need for your application and it is suitable for just about every MG-Rover vehicle. It works very well on my early MGF with it's MEMS 1.9. http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/products.html (Not the easiest site to navigate FYI)

11-02-2012, 19:26	#45
Mattlav Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bristol Car: MGF 1.8 16v 1998 Posts: 893	Just looked i have one connection and a small lead.. so MEMS 1.9? anything i can do/get that isnt too expensive?

20-02-2012, 10:54	#46
Julian Foulger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Originally from Bath UK, now Meggen, Lucerne Switzerland Car: MGF VVC and Audi A6 3.0 ltr Quattro Avant Posts: 598	I received my T300 unit last week. Cabled it up and it all works. Cleared all fault data (all historic and in relation to high voltages at various sensors plus one low battery). Also reads live data. Good value for what it does and came in case. I have a MEMS 2J.

29-02-2012, 15:51	#49
nikolas Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Athens-Greece Car: Rover 200 (95-99) 'Bubble Shape' Posts: 2,474	i m looking forward to receiving mine.. all necessary equipment is included, right..??

04-03-2012, 14:22	#52
Popeye 89 that grinds my gears Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: northampton Car: BMW 330d E46 Posts: 7,009	does this work with diesels?

04-03-2012, 15:24	#53
adamelphick Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE London Car: 1998 MGF 1.8i Nightfire with TF Front & 1998 Range Rover HSE Auto Posts: 2,819	Definitely be interested in one of these - seems like a very useful bit of kit considering i need to get a fob programmed anyway! Do yo think it would work on a 1998 Range Rover too?

08-03-2012, 20:38	#56
Jason F VVC Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Bucks Car: MGF VVC, ZS 135+, Toyota RAV4 Posts: 646	Got mine today, so far used it on the 'F' ( Mems 2J ) used it to clear historic faults, and I can confirm it WILL talk to the ecu.

14-03-2012, 14:17	#58
nikolas Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Athens-Greece Car: Rover 200 (95-99) 'Bubble Shape' Posts: 2,474	am i doing sth wrong, or mine is faulty../? do you have a rover specific plug or you use the obd2 one? mine doesn't have rover specific plug..i connected obd2, never started.. i then tsted it on familys Polo it blinked for a while, then it started..seemed.. ok.. i unplugged it, and replugged it to confirm that it would start again, but it wouldn't start.. shall i think of replacing it??

14-03-2012, 19:23	#60
nikolas Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Athens-Greece Car: Rover 200 (95-99) 'Bubble Shape' Posts: 2,474	it worked only one time on family's Polo, and never turned on since then.. also the only time that turned on, the screen blinked for a while, which didnt seem normal.. either there is problem with the wires, or with the tool itself..

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