Anyone ditched their spare for weight? - MG-Rover.org Forums

fran · 06-12-2004, 11:46

Just wondered if anyones tried swapping the spare wheel and bag, for a can of tyre weld instead to save weight?

Seemed effective in my old car, does it effect the handling greatly? I have a trophy splitter on the front, but I suppose the weight helps it be effective..

Hmm.. anyone tried it?

Rob Bell · 06-12-2004, 15:21

I do this all the time Fran, when ever I take my car on track (track day or sprint event). Not ever actually compared times before and after, but by ditching a substantial amount of weight, it stands to reason that times will improve thanks to better accceleration and braking.

As for handling, never had a problem after removing the spare wheel - so I'd have to say no problem for you either

fran · 06-12-2004, 15:38

Cool thanks Rob, can I ask do you run without the spare all the time even when not on the track? Or is to much of a risk if you popped a tyre? I hear 'tyreweld' is very good?

Thanks

DAVIDT6DCM · 06-12-2004, 15:50

have wondered myself if the weight of tyre in front would affect handling as F must be quite light in front even with wheel in, i have 16" spare and is even heavier than space saver ,have had 2 punctures in the last year and wouldn't like to go without spare though, Dave

Rob Bell · 06-12-2004, 16:34

I may have to run without a spare if I undertake the cooling mods I have in mind

- but otherwise, no, I always run the car on the road with a spare. Like Dave, I wouldn't risk it: the one puncture I've had would not be repaired by an instant mobility spray, and I'd have been nobbled

Black Bullet · 06-12-2004, 18:16

Mines out all the time, and has been for the past couple of years. Cant say ive had any problems with handling regarding the spares' absence.

Phil_B · 07-12-2004, 08:22

Isn't the crash protection/crumple zones designed to have a spare in place?

I know a guy with a TF, no spare and tyre weld. He recently got the first flat he'd ever had and the tyre weld was useless coz the hole in the tyre was about 1" across. After borrowing my spare to get him mobile again he promptly got new tyres, a spare wheel and threw the tyre weld away!

I wouldn't risk it Fran.

Rob Bell · 07-12-2004, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_B

Isn't the crash protection/crumple zones designed to have a spare in place?

That's true Phil - the crumple zone had to be designed so that when the front end of the car crushes, it can do so while absorbing the energy in spite of this hard, non-deformable object in place. Removing the spare isn't a problem: if it were, MGR would have a problem selling TFs with a can of 'tyre weld' in the spare wheel's place...

Petevick · 07-12-2004, 09:53

I carry both, spare and tyre weld, call me paranoid if you like (please do not reply with the obvious

fran · 07-12-2004, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_B

I wouldn't risk it Fran.

I agree ill give it a miss.

jase · 07-12-2004, 16:01

Sorry Paranoid, it was just too hard to resist.

Pip · 07-12-2004, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jase

Sorry Paranoid, it was just too hard to resist.

Am I the only one Jase has confused

klevoli · 07-12-2004, 16:50

petevick said "call me paranoid if you like "

so jase did.

jase · 07-12-2004, 17:08

Thanks.. I thought for a moment that I had replied to the wrong post

Petevick · 07-12-2004, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jase

Thanks.. I thought for a moment that I had replied to the wrong post

See what happens when you don't do as your told

Pip · 07-12-2004, 18:04

Ahh, now how stupid do I feel

Guess I should make a point of reading just more than the latest post each visit. It's the forums fault of course

I just can't stay away and keep popping back every 30mins or so...

Deano · 08-12-2004, 05:11

i only use the foam. never owned a spare tyre. i have one aorund my belly but i doubt it is useful.
i use the front space to carry stuff i would normally carry in the boot.

06-12-2004, 11:46	#1
fran Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northampton Car: MGF Posts: 638	Anyone ditched their spare for weight? Just wondered if anyones tried swapping the spare wheel and bag, for a can of tyre weld instead to save weight? Seemed effective in my old car, does it effect the handling greatly? I have a trophy splitter on the front, but I suppose the weight helps it be effective.. Hmm.. anyone tried it?

07-12-2004, 09:53	#9
Petevick Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Norfolk Car: MG TF 160 in Trophy Yellow Posts: 47,846	I carry both, spare and tyre weld, call me paranoid if you like (please do not reply with the obvious Last edited by Petevick; 07-12-2004 at 10:38.

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06-12-2004, 15:21	#2
Rob Bell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London Car: MGF and MG ZT-T (also Mk3 Triumph Spitfire and Mk1 Austin Mini) Posts: 3,318	I do this all the time Fran, when ever I take my car on track (track day or sprint event). Not ever actually compared times before and after, but by ditching a substantial amount of weight, it stands to reason that times will improve thanks to better accceleration and braking. As for handling, never had a problem after removing the spare wheel - so I'd have to say no problem for you either

06-12-2004, 15:38	#3
fran Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northampton Car: MGF Posts: 638	Cool thanks Rob, can I ask do you run without the spare all the time even when not on the track? Or is to much of a risk if you popped a tyre? I hear 'tyreweld' is very good? Thanks

06-12-2004, 15:50	#4
DAVIDT6DCM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Wales Car: MGTF160 Posts: 2,416	have wondered myself if the weight of tyre in front would affect handling as F must be quite light in front even with wheel in, i have 16" spare and is even heavier than space saver ,have had 2 punctures in the last year and wouldn't like to go without spare though, Dave

06-12-2004, 16:34	#5
Rob Bell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London Car: MGF and MG ZT-T (also Mk3 Triumph Spitfire and Mk1 Austin Mini) Posts: 3,318	I may have to run without a spare if I undertake the cooling mods I have in mind - but otherwise, no, I always run the car on the road with a spare. Like Dave, I wouldn't risk it: the one puncture I've had would not be repaired by an instant mobility spray, and I'd have been nobbled

06-12-2004, 18:16	#6
Black Bullet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tyne&Wear Car: MGF & MGZR Posts: 1,407	Mines out all the time, and has been for the past couple of years. Cant say ive had any problems with handling regarding the spares' absence.

07-12-2004, 08:22	#7
Phil_B Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nottingham Car: MGF VVC & SEAT Family bus Posts: 1,802	Isn't the crash protection/crumple zones designed to have a spare in place? I know a guy with a TF, no spare and tyre weld. He recently got the first flat he'd ever had and the tyre weld was useless coz the hole in the tyre was about 1" across. After borrowing my spare to get him mobile again he promptly got new tyres, a spare wheel and threw the tyre weld away! I wouldn't risk it Fran.

07-12-2004, 16:01	#11
jase Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hull Car: SAAB 9-3 Cab Aero 2.8L V6 Turbo - Damn its fast....... Posts: 1,603	Sorry Paranoid, it was just too hard to resist.

07-12-2004, 16:50	#13
klevoli Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Car: MG TF Posts: 269	petevick said "call me paranoid if you like " so jase did.

07-12-2004, 17:08	#14
jase Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hull Car: SAAB 9-3 Cab Aero 2.8L V6 Turbo - Damn its fast....... Posts: 1,603	Thanks.. I thought for a moment that I had replied to the wrong post

07-12-2004, 18:04	#16
Pip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gloucestershire, UK Car: MG TF Posts: 1,346	Ahh, now how stupid do I feel Guess I should make a point of reading just more than the latest post each visit. It's the forums fault of course I just can't stay away and keep popping back every 30mins or so...

08-12-2004, 05:11	#17
Deano Top bloke as decreed by Bazza Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nr Stratford upon Avon Car: Lexus IS 220d Posts: 42,102	i only use the foam. never owned a spare tyre. i have one aorund my belly but i doubt it is useful. i use the front space to carry stuff i would normally carry in the boot.

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